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they take our players.. we take there managers

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I do agree about liking the idea of Rafa returning but you've gotta remember that it wasn't all golden skies and walks in the park under his guidance.


Absolutely, it wasn't. There were a lot of bad times at the end. I hope he's learned from that. Conditions within the club were very bad though.



Who is to say Rafa won't return as DOF instead of manager....just a thought

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To be honest, the more I think about the prospect of Rafa returning, the more I want it. I think he's exactly what FSG would like. He's stats mad, he's a tactical genius, he has an eye for talent and he could attract top players to the club.

His love for the club is only second to Dalglish. Imagine what he could do with decent financial backing. Mouth watering.


in a way i agree with you. just watched this video and remembered that for the most of the time during the benitez era we were on a completely different level than we're at now. easy to forget..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gdOF690Wwc&feature=related

i wanted him out back in 2010 for different reasons but who knows, with the backing of fsg he might be the one...

on the other hand in might be better to start fresh with someone like avb. i just feel there will be lots of fans who can't wait for rafa to fail if he would return..

I thought at the time that he had to go, too. There was no other way, he had to go. We had it made while he was there. It just went wrong in the last year while there was turmoil going on between him and the owners, which I think he let distract him too much.

There would definitely be those who'd be waiting for him to fail - much like there were with Kenny. Rafa has unfinished business with us, he's said it himself.


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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
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To be honest, the more I think about the prospect of Rafa returning, the more I want it. I think he's exactly what FSG would like. He's stats mad, he's a tactical genius, he has an eye for talent and he could attract top players to the club.

His love for the club is only second to Dalglish. Imagine what he could do with decent financial backing. Mouth watering.


no ..he filled the club with hundreds of foreign kids/journeymen etc. and he depressed the crap out of the squad of players he had. lets not forget that, players complained about boring defensive training. they all wanted him gone , apart from kuyt probably.


You're choosing to believe a lot of unfounded rumours. Let's form an opinion on him based on fact alone shall we?:

-won us our 5th european cup
-2 CL finals
-regularly competing in the CL due to high league finishes
-european supercup
-gave us players like torres, garcia, reina, agger, skrtel, alonso, mascherano, sissoko, crouch, fowler, arbeloa, kuyt, lucas....
-was the catalyst for H&G's departure


Why would you not want a bit of that again? There's every chance he'd have even more success with a board that don't undermine his plans and decisions and are more generous with the transfer funds.
Admittedly it went a bit downhill towards the very end, but is that surprising? His net spend for his last 2 years in charge was -£2.5m, yet he still finished 2nd and 7th!!!! Compare that to Mr dalglish's 2 league positions, 6th and 8th with much MUCH more funding!

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Yeah very true.

Rafa likes being well in control though a la Alex Ferguson at United or Arsene Wenger at Arsenal and he'd be working for owners who have already sacked (rightly or wrongly) two other managers. I can imagine that might cause a few problems, though I'm willing to accept that might be the pessimist in me.

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Would be happy with anyone of these...
Martin O'Neill, David Moyes, Mourinho or Pep Guardiola(if he brings Messi with him)

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Moyes even though he is top class and probably would never come i doubt everyone would get behind him.

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how is moyes top class

absolute rubbish


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According to internet sites Martinez is the preffered option.

I wanted Kenny to go, but for Martinez? You have to be joking. I'll be livid if we appoint Martinez. It will be a clear demonstration thaat we are not getting back into the top 4 any time soon.

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yes he's one of the favorites for the job.

but there's also talk of avb. according to some we've already started talking to him.


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