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Originally Posted By: thundyr
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
Gerrard is the reason we won the Fa cup, the reason we came back in Istanbul, the reason we came back in so many games.

I think you will find that no one really agrees with you but I respect your opinion but humbly do not agree.


And I think you'll find that the Gerrard you mention has done none of what you mention since Napoli under Hodgson. He's getting on, his fitness needs to be managed, but so does his attitude. I don't think he hides in games, but over the past three seasons the number of times Gerrard has displayed anything like his former prowess have been few and far between and not just because of injury. He has to realise that he can't go around doing everyone's job for them - he must let the players around him play. That we've done no worse in games he's missed suggests that his contribution over the course of a season is far short of what it should be for a player on his wages and with his reputation.

A lot of people lash out at anyone who dares suggest Carra is no longer fit to play for LFC, but for much of the season he was just that and deserved to lose his place in the side. Lately his performances have improved, perhaps as a result of just such a wake-up call. Gerrard could do worse than heed such a lesson, and I really think that him losing the captaincy next season could be the kind of impetus he needs to really start playing for the shirt again.


This I agree with. But tbf to heggy the message was very different from Craney.

Carra's time is coming to the end and we were 'fortunate' (I use the term loosely of course) that he picked up an injury which really took away the pressure from the decision to drop him for agger and Skrtel, then their incredible form kept their places (rightfully so).

However Craney's comments re: Gerrard chooses when he plays are unsubstantiated, ludicrous in my opinion, and disrespectful to a man who loves the club more than any of us I would say. He's given us the best years of his life when he could have won more elsewhere, he has won us big trophies by putting in world class performances, this doesn't mean I think he should be exempt from criticism nor that the team should revolve around him anymore now he's waning. But to suggest he 'chooses when he plays' which clearly means he would be hurting the club is incredibly disrespectful. Not sure if that's what heggy was wound up about but I certainly thought it was ludicrous.


hmm, I wasn't having a go at Heggy, as you will have seen from the conversation that followed. My point is merely that Gerrard is no longer the player we remember, in much the same way that Carragher is. As I said "I don't think he hides..." which is in contrast to Craney's comments.


Yes mate I think I tried to say it wasn't really directed at you more craney.

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I know that Gerrard is one of the players who I can truly say was world class in his time at Anfield.

I WILL NEVER HAVE A GO BECAUSE HE IS A LEGEND

MUCH LIKE KENNY WAS AS A PLAYER.


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