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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Jammer
I go to about 5/6 games a season. What's that got to do with anything? It took redknapp 2/3 years to break spurs into the top four. Why should kenny have to do it in 1?


At least you go. The call for patience is easier to swallow when you are not forking out £1000 a year.


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i agree with Jammer on most things, but its important we get back to where we belong. and that's on top with dirty mancs behind us

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I didn't say I'm happy with being out of the top four, but I don't expect a massive turnaround in fortunes in one season. When we finished second in the league IMO we had the best midfield in the world. We are a million miles away from that team currently

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Originally Posted By: Welsh_Wizard
Look at where Newcastle finished in 2010/2011 - 12th
and with a few cheap signings they could finish 4th.

we could finish 8th and Kenny next season with the right signings could get us back in the top 4


Yes but when we get back in there I want us to stay there. No disrespect but I can't see Newcastle being in the mix again next year

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If they keep the players together Newcastle should be better next year BUT if we add a decent winger, striker, we should be better next year.

Reina
Johnson
Agger
Skrtel
Enrique
Sterling
Lucas
Gerrard
Adam Johnson
Suarez
De Jong

Would be a match for most teams in the Prem.
Add Gaston Ramirez (Bologna player) to cover for when Gerrard is injured and we should be ok.

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Originally Posted By: Jammer
I didn't say I'm happy with being out of the top four, but I don't expect a massive turnaround in fortunes in one season. When we finished second in the league IMO we had the best midfield in the world. We are a million miles away from that team currently


I believe you are accepting lower standards in this debate to support you stance on Dalglish nothing to do with Liverpool FC. We will never get to fourth from where we was therefore Dalglish is blameless. Would not surprise me if you was one of those on here saying we would get 2nd or the title in the close season. I do not recall many (Faz and crownpaints) who said we would finish out of top 4. Suddenly its only to be expected we would finish 8th or 7th.


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Who could take over if Kenny resigned?

Could Rafa work with FSG and a DOF?

I very much doubt it.

Do we go for a young untried manager?

If and its a big if, Kenny left, FSG have stated they can compete with any club in the world we should try and get Jose.

Offer him the earth to come to Anfield

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Originally Posted By: Jammer
If kenny is sacked their will be uproar at the club. The players and fans will turn against the owners, just as they did with H&G. A new manager with new ideas is going to come in to an unsettled team, hostile fans and owners who will distance themselves and maybe even sell us. The heat H&G got will be nothing compared to what FSG will have to endure


yes i would fully expect a negative reaction from the players, and that is why its not going to happen..the internet fans can go on about he didn't get the target which is 4th but the players know the score. they are in there everyday and they know its getting close. suarez would leave immediately if kenny were sacked. reina too(though no loss atm) ,stevie would only prob stay if offerred the job.

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I think if you want to finish in the top four you just need to look at the established ones in United, City, Chelsea and Arsenal and judge us on how far we need to go in order to realisticaly catch them. When I look at those Clubs I try to see where we can match them, City with there money definately not, Chelsea with Roman still there, again no chance, Arsenal well fantastic manager, wonderful young players and bright future,60k seater stadium, Champions League every season, London based to attract the very best players, new owner with a few bob and plenty of money in reserve, not much chance of replacing them in the top four and then we get to United, enough said about them simply because they are Manchester United the biggest and best Club in the world for the last 20 odd years. So you see the only real places up for grabbs each season are those between 5th and about 8th shared between us, Spurs, Newcastle, Everton and maybe Villa if they get there act together.

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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
Originally Posted By: Jammer
If kenny is sacked their will be uproar at the club. The players and fans will turn against the owners, just as they did with H&G. A new manager with new ideas is going to come in to an unsettled team, hostile fans and owners who will distance themselves and maybe even sell us. The heat H&G got will be nothing compared to what FSG will have to endure


yes i would fully expect a negative reaction from the players, and that is why its not going to happen..the internet fans can go on about he didn't get the target which is 4th but the players know the score. they are in there everyday and they know its getting close. suarez would leave immediately if kenny were sacked. reina too(though no loss atm) ,stevie would only prob stay if offerred the job.


My god you must be in touch with these players personally and getting up to the minute analysis of their thoughts. Do you get invited round for a chat and a cup of tea each morning no doubt best china the amount these guys are on. And Jaffa cakes obviously.


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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
Originally Posted By: Jammer
If kenny is sacked their will be uproar at the club. The players and fans will turn against the owners, just as they did with H&G. A new manager with new ideas is going to come in to an unsettled team, hostile fans and owners who will distance themselves and maybe even sell us. The heat H&G got will be nothing compared to what FSG will have to endure


yes i would fully expect a negative reaction from the players, and that is why its not going to happen..the internet fans can go on about he didn't get the target which is 4th but the players know the score. they are in there everyday and they know its getting close. suarez would leave immediately if kenny were sacked. reina too(though no loss atm) ,stevie would only prob stay if offerred the job.


The players have a contract they can't just leave.
If Jose came in that would pacify all of our players.

If Gerrard and Carragher were still upset I have no doubt that Jose would have no issues in getting rid of them.

We need a manager with the balls to control our players.
I find it appalling that Stevie played the FA Cup final yet did not appear in the match before or after the final.

I suspect he will be fit for the Euro 2012 England squad though.

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