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Originally Posted By: Desh
No matter what all you people who want dalglish gone it wont happen he'll be given another season to get it right from the start and if he stalls like the beginning of this season no excuses and he will be asked to step down


Thats the worry I have. That would be a disaster scrabbling around for a new manager mid season. If you chosse to stick with Dalglish you need to give him a whole season unless the ideal manager is free nid season (unlikely) We were all told beginning of FSG reign how savvy they were. If so I expect they will have worked this situation out well before now. I don't know baseball but if I had £300m plus tied up in it I would damn sure find out and after 18 months I expect them to know what they are doing now.

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Is gettin rid of Kenny a good thing??? Who realistically would replace him and also the new guy would be our 4th manager in 5 yrs! That's as many as have been at Liverpool in last 20+ yrs! 18months ago we where hours from administration and fsg saved our ass! Stabilised the club and invested in players! We won a cup,back in Europe(not preferred cup but good to use youngsters) and if we can get 3-4 players in, I think we will be there abouts for 4th!

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maddness to sack now just cause things ain't going as fast as broadband internet..we are getting there.

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maddness to sack now just cause things ain't going as fast as broadband internet..we are getting there.


Are we? and where are we getting to? you seem very sure are you able to explain further?


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Desh
No matter what all you people who want dalglish gone it wont happen he'll be given another season to get it right from the start and if he stalls like the beginning of this season no excuses and he will be asked to step down


Thats the worry I have. That would be a disaster scrabbling around for a new manager mid season. If you chosse to stick with Dalglish you need to give him a whole season unless the ideal manager is free nid season (unlikely) We were all told beginning of FSG reign how savvy they were. If so I expect they will have worked this situation out well before now. I don't know baseball but if I had £300m plus tied up in it I would damn sure find out and after 18 months I expect them to know what they are doing now.


Absolutely. In my line of work I deal with wealthy people who invest in businesses, and these people are obviously no where near the tycoons of FSG, but I can tell you now, within 3 months they go from knowing very little about a area to being tantamount to experts if they have a significant amount of money invested in it.

The whole FSG don't know about football thing was true maybe a year ago, but it isn't true now. They will have had experts detailing what football is all about, majour players and teams, what has worked what hasn't etc etc from day 1. Not 'knowing' about football will have been a way to buy them a little time in the eyes of fans should initial decisions go sour.

The only thing they might not 'get' is the Liverpool way, what the club means etc etc but I for one am enormously grateful for that. This pretentious our club deserves this that and the other, or us fans deserve more than other fans, and even we need a manager who 'gets Liverpool' sh!t has held our club back for over a decade. We need winners. The best players in the world now don't give a toss about all the things that had us starry eyed in our hay day. They don't care what Kenny did as manager and player 20 years ago. If we want to get to the top we need to be objective and push the club forward forgoing some of the sentiment that has ruled us for so long.
I was sad to see Kuyt essentially wave goodbye to us on Tuesday night as were those standing around me in the stand, and I thought oh I wish he could have stayed as a bit part player, but objectively he won't be a great loss if we replace him with some serious talent from abroad who many would deem a mercenary. Well sorry but that's what wins the football war nowadays. We have time to spread the 'Liverpool way' mantra when we are back near the top.

(Before anyone says, this wasn't aimed at anyone who thinks Kenny should stay as I'm sure that isn't just because of sentiment, I would hope its out of thinking he is genuinely the right man.)

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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maddness to sack now just cause things ain't going as fast as broadband internet..we are getting there.


Are we? and where are we getting to? you seem very sure are you able to explain further?


we are getting back to the old principles of the club, passing ,pressing and giving 100%. principles that only kenny experienced before and is now trying to instill back into the club. it hasn't happenned as fast as modern fans want but its happenning. its along way back from the crisis that kenny inherited. patience is a virtue.
fans like urself just think a new manager can come in a get us into top 4 again. its not going to happen like that, we need to stick with kenny as he is lfc thru and thru and football thru and thru , a change now would be disasterous.

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Originally Posted By: Desh
No matter what all you people who want dalglish gone it wont happen he'll be given another season to get it right from the start and if he stalls like the beginning of this season no excuses and he will be asked to step down


Thats the worry I have. That would be a disaster scrabbling around for a new manager mid season. If you chosse to stick with Dalglish you need to give him a whole season unless the ideal manager is free nid season (unlikely) We were all told beginning of FSG reign how savvy they were. If so I expect they will have worked this situation out well before now. I don't know baseball but if I had £300m plus tied up in it I would damn sure find out and after 18 months I expect them to know what they are doing now.


Absolutely. In my line of work I deal with wealthy people who invest in businesses, and these people are obviously no where near the tycoons of FSG, but I can tell you now, within 3 months they go from knowing very little about a area to being tantamount to experts if they have a significant amount of money invested in it.

The whole FSG don't know about football thing was true maybe a year ago, but it isn't true now. They will have had experts detailing what football is all about, majour players and teams, what has worked what hasn't etc etc from day 1. Not 'knowing' about football will have been a way to buy them a little time in the eyes of fans should initial decisions go sour.

The only thing they might not 'get' is the Liverpool way, what the club means etc etc but I for one am enormously grateful for that. This pretentious our club deserves this that and the other, or us fans deserve more than other fans, and even we need a manager who 'gets Liverpool' sh!t has held our club back for over a decade. We need winners. The best players in the world now don't give a toss about all the things that had us starry eyed in our hay day. They don't care what Kenny did as manager and player 20 years ago. If we want to get to the top we need to be objective and push the club forward forgoing some of the sentiment that has ruled us for so long.
I was sad to see Kuyt essentially wave goodbye to us on Tuesday night as were those standing around me in the stand, and I thought oh I wish he could have stayed as a bit part player, but objectively he won't be a great loss if we replace him with some serious talent from abroad who many would deem a mercenary. Well sorry but that's what wins the football war nowadays. We have time to spread the 'Liverpool way' mantra when we are back near the top.

(Before anyone says, this wasn't aimed at anyone who thinks Kenny should stay as I'm sure that isn't just because of sentiment, I would hope its out of thinking he is genuinely the right man.)



the fact we haven't had a manager that gets lfc,in the last decades, is the reason why we are in crap

roy evans was the last b4 kenny coming back and he nearly got us there but was sacked too early and not backed properly.
even thommo's temp time as manager saw a brief apperance of pass and move football.
fsg be best not doing the american thing of sacking willy nilly. isn't there baseball team in crap now too. they be best trusting kenny signing the cheques and keeping quiet.

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I don't think a new manager will solve it all! Patience is key!

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Kenny must stay what is pass and move football? There is no such thing all teams move the ball around from amateur to the world cup. The best two teams in the premiership at pass and move are Man Utd and Man City. We are 8th best at PAM. I asked you to explain and all we get is blind faith. That won’t be enough for me or the owners.


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Who u want to replace him ???

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