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I'm sorry but I think your reasoning is ludicrous. I'm not saying 'you shouldn't think Kenny is the right man for the job' because thats always gonna be subjective. But your second paragraph:
There is absolutely no nucleus, we have no spine what so ever, Gerrard cannot play every game, Carroll's genuinely good games I can count on one hand and suarez does not represent a nucleus.

Up and coming talent? Have you seen Henderson play? I don't begrudge anyone an opinion but that reasoning is heavily flawed. A nucleus is EXACTLY what we lack. He had big money to build one and wasted a fantastic opportunity to buy who he wanted and get top 4 in a season where no body seems to want it.

A bit dramatic perhaps, but I agree that FSG need to make the right decisions over the summer. I think it's going to be hard for them to hire a new manager and trust him with transfers having just sacked Dalglish and Commolli - men they and many others trusted, sentimentally or otherwise. So let's not belittle the difficulty of their task. They need to very accurately assess where we have gone wrong and somehow find the right people to put in place to prevent that happening again.

A question Faz, and I'm asking you because I know your stance on the man, but if you were FSG and could only make a choice between Kenny and Rafa as LFC manager for next season, who would you pick and how much would you give him to spend? Do the same mental exercise with any other manager you know nothing about. Discuss. Feels like a term paper, eh?

On the one hand, I'd say maybe you're right in terms of 'another 6 months', we have put in enough dominant displays without getting results for me to think see if you can turn performances into wins. But I wouldn't trust Kenny with 20 quid to get everyone's coffees. His last transfer window was arguably the worst of any manager in the last decade. I wouldn't want him spending my clubs money based on what he did with 115 million last year (an amount made up with huge initial investment and getting ridiculously over the top amounts for a player that was worth half of what we sold him for).

none of them why is it if one manager fails bring in another failed ex liverpool manager ?

But you can't have no manager, can you? I'm not trying to push either manager - that's not the purpose of the question. Hypothetically, were they the only candidates, what would you do?

is benitez or dalglish the only managers that could manage liverpool if thats the case maybe we are in trouble than it looks seriously .

I loved Rafa as our boss, I will not deny it, but I think we must move on from that era.

we either build long term and go for a Brendan Rodgers type British manager (not my choice to be honest)or we go foreign and bring in someone like Biesla or Loew or Van Marwjick.

I'll agree with that. It's a difficult choice picking the lesser of two evils, isn't it? FSG may not necessarily have exactly the same choice to make, but they're looking at replacing an under-performing man with someone either untested or someone disliked by a section of the fans, AND giving that man carte blanche over signings. With the weight of millions of fans willing to write them off as not acting in the best interests of the club should they get it wrong.

I think we need to be more fair on them. How many managerial changes have been effective in the long term in the EPL? Wenger is about the only one - Moyes has kept Everton stable, but no more, while the club around him has sunk. So what are the chances of FSG making the perfect decision?

Exactly - spoken by a man who knows Liverpool FC inside and out. I agree with your analysis unless changes are made this summer Liverpool will remain where they are. Other clubs are moving forward at a faster rate than us we have no known public plans to move forward. An average squad and a poor to average manager. I am sure some will cling to any small hopes of optinisim but that is masking the very real problems the club has. I am very very concerned at the current position of Liverpool FC.

Well thats just it is'nt it heggy, the decision the owners have to make on who the manager should be will determine where they think we should be as a football Club and how much of the Club they have bought in to. If they are serious about returning us to one of the top contenders then the appointment will have to be either Pep Guardiola, Jose Mourinho, Jurgen Klopp, or Joachim Löw if they want to gamble and hopefuly bare fruit in the future it could be managers like Paul Lambert, Brendan Rogers or Roberto Martinez and worse of the lot if they want to listen to sentimental " you'll Never walk alone " nonesense fans then it will be appoint Benitez or keep Dalglish.