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I agree in certain games we have played well in a nice style but thats always been the case under all managers. Its consistency thats the key. The only managers who have achieved it since the 80's have been Evans, Houllier and Rafa. But then not enough to remain in a job. Hodgson, Dalglish and Souness have been failures in ther job and not even hit those heights which were not enough. The best we can hope for now is another year to saifisfy the Dalglish legend crowd. What state the club will be in then is anyones guess. Other managers made bad signings but none have made them on the scale Dalglish did in 2011 alomst 100% failure rate on £114m. Another record set. Whatever our views I think we have established that not all the match going fans support Dalglish or I dare to say the mahjority as per the orginal post. They do chant his name but very muted and its only in pockets of the ground. Just as many boo.


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I don't and have never condoned the booing of any players. I said it was wrong at the time and I stand by that to this day. So I don't really understand your point about double standards rednick.

As for sentiment holding us back, that's just ridiculous! Sacking Rafa and Roy Hodgson hasn't exactly proved to have been a master stroke, who's to say that it's going to work wonders this time?

There is no shame in being loyal, not only to the club but to players and managers, especially a great man who is greatly respected within the city.

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Do you not agree or even see my point that if he was a player performing as he is he wouldnt get near the first team. Look at Charlie Adam. He wasnt performing and hasnt been seen since. We treat Kenny differently to other managers and give him more patience because he is a legend. That is sentimentality holding us back. If this was your money and he had spent 100 million and not improved the performance of your business you would want serious answers. This is called making people accountable.

I find it amazing that this is even up for discussion.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Just as many boo.


Remember the 'boos' at the West Ham game when we went top of the league??

So please don't base the fact that there are 'boos' that represents the fact that the fans want 2 get rid of Kenny.

The people who 'boo' should be banned from the ground! The fact that more people want to 'boo' thn support the team is incredible. Just shows we have average fans, and why the atmosphere in anfield is terrible.

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I completely see your point mate but booing and player and the player not getting near the first team are two different examples you've used to make the same point and I don't see how the first one is relevant.

I completely agree in that last summers signings haven't worked out, they've pretty much all underperformed, that said I don't think they are bad players and if given time will do better. The same (at least in my opinion) goes for the manager.

I don't see being loyal and giving a manager time to turn things around as sentimentality holding us back, in fact in my mind that's a quite mature and responsible way to run a football club.

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Originally Posted By: sassy
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Just as many boo.


Remember the 'boos' at the West Ham game when we went top of the league??

So please don't base the fact that there are 'boos' that represents the fact that the fans want 2 get rid of Kenny.

The people who 'boo' should be banned from the ground! The fact that more people want to 'boo' thn support the team is incredible. Just shows we have average fans, and why the atmosphere in anfield is terrible.


Is that a serious comment so what should happen the stewards manhandle them out of the ground. And what happens if someone shouts Henderson you are garbage what then cuff them? Maybe ticket holders should sign a declaration before being allowed to attend the games only positive comments are allowed. Sassy you sound to me a bit of a control freak. Football is an entertainment people get all sorts of things from it and they are many different personalities. If someone has paid £46 to watch a game and they feel cheated why should they not be allowed to boo or comment as they wish? One thing I do agree though hounding an individual player is wrong. I remember a year or two ago the lovely fair kopites cheering loudly when Lucas was subsituited.


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This is the problem with football fans now, they feel like they are consumers not supporters.

If you are trying 2 get some satisfaction from football, you are in the wrong game. Thus those people who want 2 'boo' are unhappy because they are not satisfied? Correct? Well football can not satisfy you in that way, you should do some other sort of recreational activity!

People should go 2 the games and support the team throughtout the game, sing shout etc. Why do they just 'boo' at the end, use some of that energy during the game and SUPPORT!!!

You go to a game support the team win, lose or draw, You can talk about tactics, how 'sh*te' players are after.

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I thought our fans were special and support the team. But maybe i am wrong, if it get's 2 the point when a our fans are sitting on there arses not singing or shouting i will stop going. I only sit in the 300 blocks now anyway for that very reason, can not stand the main stand or annie road. It is painful!

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Originally Posted By: sassy
I thought our fans were special and support the team. But maybe i am wrong, if it get's 2 the point when a our fans are sitting on there arses not singing or shouting i will stop going. I only sit in the 300 blocks now anyway for that very reason, can not stand the main stand or annie road. It is painful!


Sassy you obviously go to Anfield there is no atmosphere it’s like visiting Liverpool cathedral. The reason for that is the people who go to Anfield are in the main a totally different socio economic group or are middle aged / elderly than used to go when I was younger in the 70 / 80's when the atmosphere was unbeliable especially before they seated the kop. I watched the cars coming into Anfield on Tuesday Mercs / top of the range 4 x4’s these are quite well off people. People like that generally don’t behave raucously. They are also very demanding and the old LFC for life thing is on its way out. That said I am a long standing fan who has gone since a young boy but if I see something I don’t like I say so always have done. In my opinion the club has totally the wrong manager with a proven poor track record and owners who are being very tardy and risk averse. A toxic combination and I support LFC not Dalglish or FSG which is why I speak out. I know I am banging my head against a wall but it’s because I care and want success. Patience is fine if you know where you are heading to not patience for its own sake.

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Originally Posted By: wakka
Maybe it is sentiment for some,not for me,what I don't want to see is another scenario where we sack a manager (Rafa)and replace him with someone who is the entirely wrong choice (Roy),if someone that is an outstanding candidate for the job,Kenny could be in trouble,as long as Kenny is in the job,he gets my backing and respect.


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