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Some of the football we've played (sometimes in bits) has been a joy to watch, we've really gone at some teams....and been not bothered with others. It's been very topsy turvy, and we haven't converted enough chances all season, IF (and thats the biggest word in football) we had of scored more goals, we stood a chance of being up there this season!

We have played better football with Kenny than we ever really did under Roy or Rafa. I think the match going fans see that more than the ones watching on the TV, to be brutally honest. Because in those games where we have played really well, TV watchers can really only see whats going on around the ball, whereas being at a game, you seem to notice all the little things of camera.

I think most of us would like to see Kenny get another season, given the same sort of money as in the last summer transfer window. But this time, buying a bit more cultured, a lot more effective who produce every week, all in all just a bit more class in the team, who are mentally able to handle it.

I know we haven't got CL but WE HAVE to try and get these players, we really do, we can EASILY be back into it next season IF we sign those players to get us back into it and sustain it.

Somebody like Victor Moses, really isn't the answer! We've already been there and done that this season.

We should be going all out for Cavani and Hazard, players of that ilk. If we fail, we have to look at players who can do the job at a much cheaper price, unknown to many clubs. Like Newcastle did with Cisse, we've been rumored with de Jong and Elm, THIS IS POSITIVE.

It's an absolute must, or face another season of mediocrity in the league.

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My honest answer. I thought Roy should have been given more time, i don't think he helped himself with things that he said. The football at time was negative. But I think he should of had more time. I just don't want us 2 become the club that sacks the manager every season.

Only recently have we had the 'boos', started at the Wigan game. But the general atmosphere is fairly pathetic anyway, always moaning and no supporting. (i think you replied 2 a post i made about improve the atmosphere at the ground).

We did not chant his name as we do now, at the start of every game?Throughout the game? I think that shows the support 2 the manager. In the pub before (Park), we chant his name.

I am not saying he is immune from criticism. But i think it is wrong path when we decide we need to sack the manager every season. People talk about 'sentiment', maybe it is. But when you start taking sentiment and emotion out of the game, what is the point?

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Originally Posted By: craney91
Some of the football we've played (sometimes in bits) has been a joy to watch, we've really gone at some teams....and been not bothered with others. It's been very topsy turvy, and we haven't converted enough chances all season, IF (and thats the biggest word in football) we had of scored more goals, we stood a chance of being up there this season!

We have played better football with Kenny than we ever really did under Roy or Rafa. I think the match going fans see that more than the ones watching on the TV, to be brutally honest. Because in those games where we have played really well, TV watchers can really only see whats going on around the ball, whereas being at a game, you seem to notice all the little things of camera.

I think most of us would like to see Kenny get another season, given the same sort of money as in the last summer transfer window. But this time, buying a bit more cultured, a lot more effective who produce every week, all in all just a bit more class in the team, who are mentally able to handle it.

I know we haven't got CL but WE HAVE to try and get these players, we really do, we can EASILY be back into it next season IF we sign those players to get us back into it and sustain it.

Somebody like Victor Moses, really isn't the answer! We've already been there and done that this season.

We should be going all out for Cavani and Hazard, players of that ilk. If we fail, we have to look at players who can do the job at a much cheaper price, unknown to many clubs. Like Newcastle did with Cisse, we've been rumored with de Jong and Elm, THIS IS POSITIVE.

It's an absolute must, or face another season of mediocrity in the league.



You're right. If we're going to think about seriously challenging 4th, signing players from teams that have been battling relegation all season probably isn't going to help. Hoilett and Moses are decent players, but let's be honest with ourselves: if it weren't for Yakubu, Blackburn would be down already, and Wigan are banking on the fact that about 3 weeks of good performances can make up for about 7 months of crap. We need to be looking at top-tier players. If we can't sign Hazard or Cavani, then we look at diamonds in the rough from the lesser leagues of Europe. There are bargains to be had out there, just not in England.


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I was asked a question about Roy, so i answered it.

Less goals is not because of negative football, we have created lots of chances. Just not put them away. It is not as simple as 'less goals = negative football'.

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Honesty buddy, you are entitled 2 your view. But one think we have not been is negative. The difference between the style of football under Kenny and Hodgson is for every1 to see.

Negative in certain games away from home, but at home we are creating lots of chances.

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We signed players last summer who, whichever way you look at it, DID not set the League or the highest level alight! They were playing well for mid-table/relegation threatened clubs and were probably stand out from the rest at there previous clubs.

But if I'm honest, these players were never going to take us 4th and beyond. I was optimistic to begin with, but it soon fizzled out the way many of us thought it would do.

Like I said before, this window will show us just how serious these owners are.

If it's more Moses, Jarvis and players like that, EXPECT more of the same next season.

But if we go out and sign the top players, expect an entirely different ball game next season.

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I am all for signing big players but lets be honest your hazard and an city offers you a fat contract or real Madrid and then we try and sign you.

As much as i love Liverpool you know he wont be coming here lets try and keep our feet on the ground it beginning to sound let football manager in here

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You shouldn't be so abusive around here mate, it'd help to try being more polite. Remember, even if you disagree with people's opinions, we're all Reds fans and we're all entitled to them.

That said, I completely agree with you. I usually just read this forum and don't bother logging in to comment, but recently I've felt the need to have a say! Some of the stuff I've read on here lately has been outright embarrassing.

Since when have we been so quick to turn our back on a manager, especially when it's one that means so much to Liverpool FC and the city of Liverpool? There isn't a man alive that knows more about what LFC stands for, its principles and philosophies, not to mention what level of success is expected and acceptable.

Nobody believes our league form is acceptable this season but two cup finals IS a sign of clear improvement! LFC is headed in the right direction, we just need to be patient.

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The problem is the game on the whole is not patient

The days of fergie getting 7 years to get it right are long gone. You really think his successor will get 7 years to get it right !

Yes some people are quick to fire the trigger but its finances that run football and that's the sad truth

Yes we can have one bad season but not two, next season has to be an improvement

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Originally Posted By: KingoftheKop
You shouldn't be so abusive around here mate, it'd help to try being more polite. Remember, even if you disagree with people's opinions, we're all Reds fans and we're all entitled to them.

That said, I completely agree with you. I usually just read this forum and don't bother logging in to comment, but recently I've felt the need to have a say! Some of the stuff I've read on here lately has been outright embarrassing.

Since when have we been so quick to turn our back on a manager, especially when it's one that means so much to Liverpool FC and the city of Liverpool? There isn't a man alive that knows more about what LFC stands for, its principles and philosophies, not to mention what level of success is expected and acceptable.

Nobody believes our league form is acceptable this season but two cup finals IS a sign of clear improvement! LFC is headed in the right direction, we just need to be patient.

YNWA


Why dont we show the same patience with players? I recall not so long ago virtually the whole ground booing when Lucas came on. Seems to be a lot of double standards here. If a player was performing as bad at his job as Kenny is at managing us we wouldnt want them near the first team.

As usual sentiment holds this club back. Its time people were made accountable for performing badly. Kenny gets the plaudits from the usual suspects when we have a good result and then the same people blame the players when we have a bad result.He can't lose and this club will never move forward until this club stops accepting mediocrity.

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