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Be careful there...

Just a genuine friendly suggestion. I know it seems like a smartarse remark, but I was just thinking about it, and breaking it down - I love the club, and regardless of how hard it is to be a fan at times, the club always make me happy. I don't see any happiness from you whatsoever in being a Liverpool fan. I don't doubt your dedication to the club at all. I believe you're a lifelong Red and a season ticket holder etc, but I don't think you actually enjoy it anymore, and just follow the club out of a forced sense of obligation. Isn't getting joy from the game what it's actually all about? When was the last time the club felt happy, honestly? I'd compare it to a relationship that's gone stale and is just going through the motions. If it isn't working out, you're better off breaking it off, rather than just growing old miserable. Unfortunately, you can dump your missus, but a football club really is a lifelong commitment I remember a few years back the club were making me unhappy, and I tried to ween myself off it for a year or so, because I was obsessed before that. After the short break I got right back into it again and rediscovered my passion again. It's just a suggestion. If the club and if football in general is making you unhappy, maybe consider distancing yourself from it a little. I promise you that I mean that genuinely and not in a smarmy way.

It's not good for your health lads, just give in.

If you keep supporting something that goes against all of your wishes, it can't be good guys.

Just give in to it! Breathe again!

Support Leeds United.

Never support leeds soft lad

Unfortunately, anyone suggesting 'you go support someone else' probably hasn't followed football for very long as they don't understand what being a fan 'is'. Once you've followed a club for a long time it becomes part of you - you couldn't change if you wanted to, which is why it hurts seeing how bad we are.
Those that are unhappy and want change have probably supported the club longer than those who are happy to 'wait'. That isn't a put down or a dig, and I'm not suggesting that the better fan is the one who has supported the longest.....But how can anyone say we need to be 'patient' when we haven't won a league title for well over 20 years and our current manager is taking us backwards?

You're being a bit silly now. NO-ONE is saying kenny should be sacked for NOT WINNING the premier league. He has failed by taking us backwards despite spending a fortune - where is the progress? where is the potential?

Rafa earnt himself a few years by winning the biggest competition of them all. He then went on and challenged regularly for the title by getting better all the time, constantly qualifying for the CL and picking up a few domestic pots along the way.
If you don't want Rafa at the club, fine - but don't make out that he was anywhere near as bad as Kenny because it just isn't true.

not a worthwhile argument

but the comment about a true fan can never leave their club is very very true

to even suggest so makes no sense.

KP if you don't like what's been wrote on here,Then you go and find another website or take your own advice and you go and support Rochdale!! Every ones entitled to their own oppinion!

+1

Rafa certainly earned himself some time by winning the CL - for which I will always be grateful - but let's not look at his reign through rose-tinted specs.

We were not "regularly" challenging for the title. We had one good run at it during 2008/09, but aside from that we were well off the pace every season. In 2005/06 we were 9 points back. The season after that we were 21 points behind United. In 2007/08, we finished 11 points behind United. And in 2009/10, we were 23 points behind Chelsea and barely qualified for Europe.

Which brings me to my next point. A quick glance at our point totals - 82, 68, 76, 86, 63 - does not show a steady improvement. We finished 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd and 7th. We were inconsistent, with peaks and troughs, and we were arguably on the decline when Rafa left.

That being said, as disappointing as it was under Rafa to be "good but not quite good enough for the title," we've become basically a mid-table team under Kenny's watch. I long for the days of finishing 3rd or 4th consistently, and I don't think there's any argument over who has been a better manager for us. I'm not saying bring Rafa back, but if he's the only top-level manager willing to come in after Kenny (inevitably) leaves, then I would be willing to give him a chance.