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#219224 30/04/12 05:43 PM
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Was just looking at the first team squad and the real lack of wingers and pace in the team is worrying. I think Liverpool need to buy some decent wingers and stop playing center midfielders or strikers on the wings i.e. Henderson Jonjo and Kuyt it’s so easy for the opposition to defend against these make shift wingers imagine if we had wingers that attacked the full backs with pace and with Suarez and Gerrard movement we would destroy teams home and away. yes Kuyt Henderson and Jonjo will do a job on the wing but this is Liverpool football club when was the last time on of those guys went past the full backs . These three guys especially when they play on the wing slow everything down. Surely Liverpool football club can attract some real wingers with pace that have the ability to go past someone with ease. at the moment there are two out and out wingers in the Liverpool squad Downing and Sterling. In the summer I hope KK will spend whatever money he has on players with pace. we don’t need center midfielders or defenders.

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Are we now accepted that Kenny is staying because we beat Norwich? The last thing i want is for Kenny to spend another penny of the club's money.

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You are right the team is short of pace and up front too. Saurez, Kuyt, Carroll not really fast players.


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I think he will be given one year I dont mind if he stays aslong as he doesnt keep playing centre midfielders on the wing its annoying to watch you look at any successful team and they have players with pace. i could be wrong here but glen johnson seems to be the fastest player at the club and he is our right back.

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Sometimes we just need to admit that some of our players are useless. Take henderson for example - he is regarded as a central midfielder and sometimes has to play right midfield (not right wing - 2 different things entirely). People justify his abysmal performances by saying, 'he was played out of position'. He is doing exactly the same job albeit 15 yards to the right - it's not as if he's being asked to play polo! Granted certain positions are more specialised than others and that DOES mean certain allowances can be made but all too often we are just making excuses for people.

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We've been missing genuine pace for years, last couple of times we had it (nando and owen) wehad a craic at the title.....

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I think when Henderson has played in the middle he has done well at the weekend he was very good. He cost us 16 million to play right midfield he should be playing center or not playing at all. For me Kuyt is the problem when he plays right wing he slows everything down and results in us losing the ball. Yes he has been a great servant to the club but its time now to say thanks and say goodbye to him and 3 or 4 others they are not good enough to play for liverpool. we need young players with pace who are not afraid to try a few tricks to go by someone. look at swansea and wigan they have better wingers than us. What i cant understand is how KK has not done anything to address the problem. Sterling has to be given a chance now .

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Sometimes we just need to admit that some of our players are useless. Take henderson for example - he is regarded as a central midfielder and sometimes has to play right midfield (not right wing - 2 different things entirely). People justify his abysmal performances by saying, 'he was played out of position'. He is doing exactly the same job albeit 15 yards to the right - it's not as if he's being asked to play polo! Granted certain positions are more specialised than others and that DOES mean certain allowances can be made but all too often we are just making excuses for people.


Most of the time this season we haven't made any "allowances" whatsoever, though, have we?

People seem to think that 16m pounds is going to make Henderson a 24 year old with a wealth of experience, so much so that he can change to play in any position on the pitch seamlessly. ALL positions are specialized, and all may be learned given sufficient time and patience. Henderson hasn't had enough of either. Regardless of whether you think RM and CM are the same or not, Henderson's play has generally been of a far higher standard when played in the middle. If we continue to play him to his weaknesses obviously he will never justify his price tag! Never mind that at 20 he's a pup in this league. He looks a lot better than Lucas did at 22, and while I don't expect him to come good at the same rate as the Brazilian it's far too early to be so dismissive of the lad.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Sometimes we just need to admit that some of our players are useless. Take henderson for example - he is regarded as a central midfielder and sometimes has to play right midfield (not right wing - 2 different things entirely). People justify his abysmal performances by saying, 'he was played out of position'. He is doing exactly the same job albeit 15 yards to the right - it's not as if he's being asked to play polo! Granted certain positions are more specialised than others and that DOES mean certain allowances can be made but all too often we are just making excuses for people.


Most of the time this season we haven't made any "allowances" whatsoever, though, have we?

People seem to think that 16m pounds is going to make Henderson a 24 year old with a wealth of experience, so much so that he can change to play in any position on the pitch seamlessly. ALL positions are specialized, and all may be learned given sufficient time and patience. Henderson hasn't had enough of either. Regardless of whether you think RM and CM are the same or not, Henderson's play has generally been of a far higher standard when played in the middle. If we continue to play him to his weaknesses obviously he will never justify his price tag! Never mind that at 20 he's a pup in this league. He looks a lot better than Lucas did at 22, and while I don't expect him to come good at the same rate as the Brazilian it's far too early to be so dismissive of the lad.


Sorry, but you are massively misremembering things. Whilst Lucas was indeed very average, never in a million years can henderson be described as looking a lot better than 'anyone'.

At RM i'd give him an average of 1/10
At CM i'd give him an average of 2/10

Regardless of where he plays, he does very little unless he's misplacing a pass. If he keeps improving at his current rate I expect to him be completely sh!te when he reaches his 'peak'.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Sometimes we just need to admit that some of our players are useless. Take henderson for example - he is regarded as a central midfielder and sometimes has to play right midfield (not right wing - 2 different things entirely). People justify his abysmal performances by saying, 'he was played out of position'. He is doing exactly the same job albeit 15 yards to the right - it's not as if he's being asked to play polo! Granted certain positions are more specialised than others and that DOES mean certain allowances can be made but all too often we are just making excuses for people.


Most of the time this season we haven't made any "allowances" whatsoever, though, have we?

People seem to think that 16m pounds is going to make Henderson a 24 year old with a wealth of experience, so much so that he can change to play in any position on the pitch seamlessly. ALL positions are specialized, and all may be learned given sufficient time and patience. Henderson hasn't had enough of either. Regardless of whether you think RM and CM are the same or not, Henderson's play has generally been of a far higher standard when played in the middle. If we continue to play him to his weaknesses obviously he will never justify his price tag! Never mind that at 20 he's a pup in this league. He looks a lot better than Lucas did at 22, and while I don't expect him to come good at the same rate as the Brazilian it's far too early to be so dismissive of the lad.


Sorry, but you are massively misremembering things. Whilst Lucas was indeed very average, never in a million years can henderson be described as looking a lot better than 'anyone'.

At RM i'd give him an average of 1/10
At CM i'd give him an average of 2/10

Regardless of where he plays, he does very little unless he's misplacing a pass. If he keeps improving at his current rate I expect to him be completely sh!te when he reaches his 'peak'.


I disagree on who is misremembering, and hope you will admit you were wrong should Henderson become a decent player.

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