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The means nothing and proves nothing. It certainly isn't any kind of inidcation as to whether we are getting better - only the league position will tell us that. And it currently shows we ARE probably further away that you want to accept.

It means we have dominated a lot of games in my opinion.


[i]"And it currently shows we ARE probably further away that you want to accept.
This is not a definitive statement, just like mine.

I think we are not as far away as you think.

Just different opinions on where we think the club are at present.

Your glass half empty, my glass half full.

But what does dominated mean? A lot of teams play counter attack where it is 'their plan' for us to have most of the ball - that's not an indication of how good we are, especially when we lose so often. IF we are getting better and aren't too far away from being a good side, how come we have only won 1 league game at home this year - we're in MAY, the last month of the season!!!!
Your ''opinion'' might be that we are getting better, but the facts show we are getting worse - nothing to do with a half empty glass.

Scumchester? Grow up.

I can't see Bale & Modric leaving because of no CL football. They had no CL football this season but stayed.
Modric handed in a transfer request so he could join chelsea, possibly for CL football. Harry did what any very good manager should do - persuaded him to stay. (Shame we couldn't hang on to torres in the same way....).
People also seem to be forgetting that Spurs are in 4th and therefore favourites to secure the final CL place.

Dictionary definition of dominated:

1. To control, govern, or rule by superior authority or power:
2. To exert a supreme, guiding influence on or over: Ambition dominated their lives.
3. To enjoy a commanding, controlling position in: a drug company that dominates the tranquilizer market.
4. To overlook from a height: a view from the cliffside chalet that dominates the valley.
v.intr.
1. To have or exert strong authority or mastery.
2. To be situated in or occupy a position that is more elevated or decidedly superior to others.

Again your theory on what tactics other teams play against us are just that theories. What you call teams playing on the counter attack others would call Liverpool dominating the game.

Our league form is poor and no one can ignore that but we have not been dominated or torn apart in games bar maybe Spurs away where we went down to 10 men early on.

Our goals to chances created ratio is diabolical. But we are creating chances.


Again your are confusing your opinion for facts. You conveniently ignore our Cup form because it doesnt suit your argument.

We have won one of the 3 competitions we entered this year and we are in the final of another one and yet according to you we are having a disastrous season.

Glass half empty.

As a Liverppol fan were you happy we won on Saturday and will you be happy if we win this Saturday?

I totally accept that my thought's are just 'opinions', but what you fail to realise is that so are yours. Neither of us can be proved right although the odds are stacked heavily in my favour. IF we are getting better, than how come we are having one of our worst league campaigns in 50 years?



(I'm not prepared to discuss the cups as they bear no reflection on how good a club is, and are just used for short term bragging rights. Their financial rewards are insignificant - £100k for winning the carling cup?? it barely covers travel expenses!. Cup success can largely depend on luck of the draw and how seriously the other clubs take the competition)

Of course my thoughts are only opinions.

I agreed that our league form is terrible but we are not being outplayed or overrun. It is on that basis that I think we arent as far away as some people think.

Oh so we are only allowed to discuss what suits your agenda?

Also you declined to answer if you wil be happy if we win the FA Cup on Saturday.

see previous response re: cups

You said on a thread once, lets talk about our own team and not others, hypocrite much

Where you happy we won in the league against Norwich on Saturday?