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if he stays then we are finished for good, we will have to write another league campagn over and that will mean 4 seasons without Champions League, that will hit the Club hard and there will be no way back then, I think it's probably too late even now with 3 seasons without.
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if he stays then we are finished for good, we will have to write another league campagn over and that will mean 4 seasons without Champions League, that will hit the Club hard and there will be no way back then, I think it's probably too late even now with 3 seasons without. Presumably you just take it as a given that any manager we appoint as a replacement is going to guarantee a better finish and CL qualification?
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if he stays then we are finished for good, we will have to write another league campagn over and that will mean 4 seasons without Champions League, that will hit the Club hard and there will be no way back then, I think it's probably too late even now with 3 seasons without. You cannot say that our season will be written off before it starts, we have shown glimpses of brilliance and with the right striker we would be Top 4 this season based on chances missed. It's definitely not too late for us to be Top 4 again.
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if he stays then we are finished for good, we will have to write another league campagn over and that will mean 4 seasons without Champions League, that will hit the Club hard and there will be no way back then, I think it's probably too late even now with 3 seasons without. You cannot say that our season will be written off before it starts, we have shown glimpses of brilliance and with the right striker we would be Top 4 this season based on chances missed. It's definitely not too late for us to be Top 4 again. Have to disagree there, I dont think you can make a 20 point or so difference up in just one season, we might improve and strenghthen yes but so will the teams above us too unless you think we will be the only ones who will be better next season, Arsenal and Chelsea have had one off shocking seasons by there standards and wont be as bad next season that's guaranteed for a start. I honestly dont think you will see Liverpool challenging for a top four place for the foreseeable future and definately not while Dalglish is still involved with the Club, every season without Champions League is another nail in the Clubs demise. I can see over the next two or 3 seasons the Club downscaling the players it signs as in cost and also the wages it pays out, we have to start cutting our cloth accordingly instead of living beyond our means like we have done otherwise we will find ourselves in serious financial trouble again.
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if he stays then we are finished for good, we will have to write another league campagn over and that will mean 4 seasons without Champions League, that will hit the Club hard and there will be no way back then, I think it's probably too late even now with 3 seasons without. Presumably you just take it as a given that any manager we appoint as a replacement is going to guarantee a better finish and CL qualification? It's not about guarantees - if so, do you think we should keep kenny, regardless of how bad we are, until we can find someone who can GUARANTEE success?? Use your loaf! In all jobs, you perform or you're fired. No one retains their job on the ludicrous basis that you set out above... BOARDROOM MEETING: Boss: sorry Ken, you haven't come anywhere near the targets we set you despite us backing you to the hilt with a club record sum of money. Last year we finished 7th - you've taken us backwards this year. I'm afraid you're fired. KD: can you guarantee that my replacement will win the league? Boss: er, no - why? KD: see you on monday then. by the way can i spend another £115m this summer? i think i could win the carling cup and recoup £100k for you. ker-ching?
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if he stays then we are finished for good, we will have to write another league campagn over and that will mean 4 seasons without Champions League, that will hit the Club hard and there will be no way back then, I think it's probably too late even now with 3 seasons without. You cannot say that our season will be written off before it starts, we have shown glimpses of brilliance and with the right striker we would be Top 4 this season based on chances missed. It's definitely not too late for us to be Top 4 again. Have to disagree there, I dont think you can make a 20 point or so difference up in just one season, we might improve and strenghthen yes but so will the teams above us too unless you think we will be the only ones who will be better next season, Arsenal and Chelsea have had one off shocking seasons by there standards and wont be as bad next season that's guaranteed for a start. I honestly dont think you will see Liverpool challenging for a top four place for the foreseeable future and definately not while Dalglish is still involved with the Club, every season without Champions League is another nail in the Clubs demise. I can see over the next two or 3 seasons the Club downscaling the players it signs as in cost and also the wages it pays out, we have to start cutting our cloth accordingly instead of living beyond our means like we have done otherwise we will find ourselves in serious financial trouble again. We've got the 3rd or 4th highest wage bill in the premier league. We cannot possibly sustain that without CL football which is why FSG set 4th place as the minimum requirement for this season. Kenny's big signings simply HAD to get us into the champions league this year. If we spend big over the next 12-24 months and somehow qualify for the CL there's a big question mark over whether we will be allowed to take part because our expenditure won't be offset by the CL money that we desperately needed......for the last few years we have been paying the kind of wages and transfer fees of a club getting regular CL football, despite being nowhere near the competition.
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if he stays then we are finished for good, we will have to write another league campagn over and that will mean 4 seasons without Champions League, that will hit the Club hard and there will be no way back then, I think it's probably too late even now with 3 seasons without. You cannot say that our season will be written off before it starts, we have shown glimpses of brilliance and with the right striker we would be Top 4 this season based on chances missed. It's definitely not too late for us to be Top 4 again. Have to disagree there, I dont think you can make a 20 point or so difference up in just one season, we might improve and strenghthen yes but so will the teams above us too unless you think we will be the only ones who will be better next season, Arsenal and Chelsea have had one off shocking seasons by there standards and wont be as bad next season that's guaranteed for a start. I honestly dont think you will see Liverpool challenging for a top four place for the foreseeable future and definately not while Dalglish is still involved with the Club, every season without Champions League is another nail in the Clubs demise. I can see over the next two or 3 seasons the Club downscaling the players it signs as in cost and also the wages it pays out, we have to start cutting our cloth accordingly instead of living beyond our means like we have done otherwise we will find ourselves in serious financial trouble again. We've got the 3rd or 4th highest wage bill in the premier league. We cannot possibly sustain that without CL football which is why FSG set 4th place as the minimum requirement for this season. Kenny's big signings simply HAD to get us into the champions league this year. If we spend big over the next 12-24 months and somehow qualify for the CL there's a big question mark over whether we will be allowed to take part because our expenditure won't be offset by the CL money that we desperately needed......for the last few years we have been paying the kind of wages and transfer fees of a club getting regular CL football, despite being nowhere near the competition. This is my point exactly, we have been living well beyond our means, we should not of been buying players for 15 million pounds or more and paying wages in excess of 60-70k a week given where we are as a football Club, this is what happend to Everton and Leeds United.
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Can you provide the financial records to back these theories?
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Can you provide the financial records to back these theories?
Dont need to it's simple laws of business if you over spend and dont get back what you pay out as in Champions League footie in our case then eventualy you will get into massive trouble, thats why you dont see your other big Clubs like Everton's Villa's e.t.c. spending about 20 million pound on players and paying them 80 to 100 grand a week on wages, financial madness.
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So you Don't have the records in other words.
So your post is based on guess work
You don't know what Liverpool, Everton or Villa pay their players.
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