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how many goals and games has this bloke cost us lately??? both todays goals were due to his poor defending and going back to the start of the season i wouldnt be suprised if it adds up that hes cost us a goal a game on average when starting!!!

we are fecking shaky defending and its hurting the scorelines straightaway

Emp only idiot here is you.

ffs emp that is nothing to do with zonal defending - i do agree the posts should be manned but attacking the ball is the whole point of zonal - it is supposed to ensure that there is always a defender to attack the ball ...... unlike man to man, which is reactive, a well worked zonal system should be pro-active ..... the idea being that it will come into the area and the player closest attacks it, unlike man to man where half the time a defender is too busy wondering where his man went

the problem is our players are too busy trying to pass responsibility onto everyone else instead of just making sure they get the ball then worry about the rest later ...... the players look as badly coached defensively as the goalkeepers did when corrigan was coaching ...... there are clear symptoms of players who don't understand the instructions they have received from the coaches - that is pelligrino's fault ....... but rafa chose him as coach and if he can't see that the guy is useless at his job then there is a big problem

i understand what people are saying about this being a consequence of the full backs attacking more etc but its nothing to do with that as our goals are coming from set pieces ..... at a set piece all the players are back ...... this is bad coaching just like the injuries we are suffering at the moment - some injuries are bad luck but the ones we are getting are a lack of fitness and suppleness - it's just not good enough for a club of Liverpool's size

they shouldn't need it explained it's simple

but it is their fault - they are the ones not taking responsibility on the pitch ..... they are all too busy blaming each other

Emp i bet we will be even stinkier with man to man....you mark my words...we gotta overhaul our defence..simple really

just imagine Carra or skrtel marking any of Drogba,Anelka to name a few...its the players not well enough to defend.be it any system

Its bugger all to do with zonal marking - been using that system for years and conceded the fewest goals in the league for a number of seasons.

Skrtel is also not the problem - dives in a bit and concedes too many free kicks but is a good player. He's have a better season than Carra.

skrtel is not good enough ...... maybe he can become good enough but right now he is struggling and lacking in confidence ...... especially in the air - he might look like a tough bruiser of a player but it looks to me like his bottle has gone since the clash of heads and he is not putting his head in where it hurts defensively ..... to make any system work correctly players have to take responsibility and right now skrtel is failing miserably in that department ...... switching to man to man would just mean his man would be open every single time rather than his zone

Disagree - Skrtel is good enough - just down on a bit of confidence. If it wasn't for the injuries he wouldn't be in the side at the moment as on a bad run of form but just to say he's sh!te because of that is wrong.

Was great for us last season