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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
there was open hostility to him as soon as he was linked to the job. he was not given a chance.


Thats true I remember that. I know its all opinions but I think we would be about where we are now or slightly better off if he had stayed plus £100m better off. Kenny may play prettier football but it is not effective, Hodgson is more effective.


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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
there was open hostility to him as soon as he was linked to the job. he was not given a chance.


Thats true I remember that. I know its all opinions but I think we would be about where we are now or slightly better off if he had stayed plus £100m better off. Kenny may play prettier football but it is not effective, Hodgson is more effective.


on what basis?

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
there was open hostility to him as soon as he was linked to the job. he was not given a chance.


Thats true I remember that. I know its all opinions but I think we would be about where we are now or slightly better off if he had stayed plus £100m better off. Kenny may play prettier football but it is not effective, Hodgson is more effective.


Seriously?

Are West Brom above us in the league and have they won a cup and also have another final to play in???

I think the answer to all three will be the same.

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west brom ain't far from us in the league. and they are west brom, relegation certs before roy took over.
think modern day internet fans did for roy, same thing is happenning with kenny now..a manager needs time to build, roy had no time,no money ,no support and a crap squad of players

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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
west brom ain't far from us in the league. and they are west brom, relegation certs before roy took over.
think modern day internet fans did for roy, same thing is happenning with kenny now..a manager needs time to build, roy had no time,no money ,no support and a crap squad of players


I've never rated Roy, he had an awful record for winning away games before coming to Liverpool, not only that his record as a manager isn't that great either.

He should never have been given the job and was in a no-win situation as soon as he took it on, he must have known he was gone as soon as the two yanky clowns left.

We have been [oops] this season and they are still below us, doesn't that show you something about how good a manager he really is.

Yes he can get a bottom league team to win a couple of games but he has shown he struggles at a good team.

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Clearly Roy Hodgson was not the manager for us but my point is Kenny is probably worse. I see them both as interim managers so we may have been better staying with Roy. I am convinced he would not have made those signings. Yes Roy signed some duds but not on that scale. Andy Carroll £35m 4 premiership goals that is unbeleivable.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Clearly Roy Hodgson was not the manager for us but my point is Kenny is probably worse. I see them both as interim managers so we may have been better staying with Roy. I am convinced he would not have made those signings. Yes Roy signed some duds but not on that scale. Andy Carroll £35m 4 premiership goals that is unbeleivable.


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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
there was open hostility to him as soon as he was linked to the job. he was not given a chance.


Thats true I remember that. I know its all opinions but I think we would be about where we are now or slightly better off if he had stayed plus £100m better off. Kenny may play prettier football but it is not effective, Hodgson is more effective.


Seriously?

Are West Brom above us in the league and have they won a cup and also have another final to play in???

I think the answer to all three will be the same.
Everton are ahead of us in the League and will in all honestly probably go five points clear of us this weekend, this is the same Everton who earlier in the season had mass protests because they were hovering above relegation and the fans thought the Club was going in the wrong direction, puts everything into perspective as regards how far we have slipped.

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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
I don't think it's that bad Stanley. With Roy we were asked to lower our expectations. The style of football was often dire and the calibre of players we were asked to accept wasn't to anyone's liking.

With Kenny, whilst it hasn't worked out, the style of football has been much better, the number of chances we've created must be much higher, and our expectations have increased as well.

I don't think anybody complained too much about the players Kenny bought at the time. The only issue was with the price and how it hasn't worked out in the League.

In my view, appointing Kenny was a gamble well worth taking. And there may yet be a case to hold our nerve and allow time for some adjusments rather than a drastic change. With Roy, whatever the reasons, we just never had that feeling.


Hmm. I agree Kenny has us playing much better football, and way more chances created. I'd say we would be better off with kenny than Roy although I think neither are right.

I think it was impossible for new owners to not give Kenny the job after how well his interim term went.

I don't however feel he's progressed the club nor do I think my expectations have got any higher, if anything they are lower, I've gone from thinking we should be getting top 4 to thinking we will hopefully compete for it.

Absolutely categorically refuse to accept the statement not too many people complained about his signings at the time bar the price tags. An incredible amount of people complained, and thought they were wrong choices regardless of price. I'm not saying everyone did, or even the majority. But plenty of people.

There are arguments to be made about if cups show improvement as a whole, or if the style of play shows improvement. But I cannot see anyone putting together a decent argument to defend one of the worst transfer windows I have ever seen in English football. Both on prices paid and the type of players bought.

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kenny, roy, roy, kenny both not good enough to be the boss of the reds.


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