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not so much patience he knows Liverpool fans expectation levels are not as high as those in Madrid, Barca, United, Chelsea and now Manchester City otherwise his woeful league campagns since he arrived at the Club would of got him the sack, our fans will put up with mediocrity which is shown by how stupid fans on here will back him regardless.

be it "THE LIVERPOOL WAY" or stupidity of fans..one thing i believe is hes enjoyed quite a time at liverpool without coming under serious questionings i believe.

yup emp...its more than required rafa worshipping..i have now concluded once n for all that he has lost the plot.no doubts there left in my mind now.keeping in view all the injuries,financial restraints ,badluck,u name it...but he has lost it now.. YNWA

evans was blocked from signing the players he wanted at every turn by Moores - the man was a class above any manager we have had since ........ but then you are one of those who thinks rafa is the only manager in the history of the world to not get his first choice targets!!!

btw that was for rafar not emp lol

I hope your joking, Roy Evans team for me has been our best since winning the league and also the team which has come closest to winning it realisticaly since. If it was'nt for a Gary McCallister inspired Coventry City side who beat us at Anfield when if we had won we would of gone about 5 points clear at the top with about 4 or 5 games remaining we would of won the league that season. For me Roy Evans team is still the best and most exciting team we have had and was very unfortunate to be chasing Manchester United's arguably greatest team ever. Roy Evans was a bit nieve at times but his philosophy of attacking football is still the best way forward and it's no coincidence it's similar to the style United have had so much success with, how i wish we had a Collymore Fowler partnership now.

it was collywobbles that stopped us winning the league imo - if that money had been spent on the defence, like evans wanted, we would have won the league

your joking are'nt you it was the Collymore Fowler partnership which scored over 50 goals between them which got us so close to the title, the money was spent on the defence Evans was allowed to break the transfer record twice on centre half's in Babb and Scales who both cost over 3 million pound when the record previously was Gary Pallister for about 2 million. It was Liverpool's style of play which enabled to get us so close to winning the league because it was all out attack much the way United and Arsenal play nowadays, them teams realised that the best form of defence is to attack and keep the opposition out of your half of the field so as to not expose any weaknesses you may or may not have at the back, simple but effective tactics.

yes but check back and you will find scales left for spuds and evans wanted a replacement which moores refused

did you not listen to rafa? he clearly stated that keane was first choice to join as well as barry but that the barry move fell through after buying keane ...... so he did get one of his first choice players then had no clue how to use him

as for the evans thing - you fail to mention that the prem was a different league back then and so impossible to compare points achieved ...... but rafa has always been able to choose the types of players he wanted - ie when he wants a defender he bought one (skrtel and the greek guy for instance) whereas when evans wanted a defender moores runs out and buys him a striker - totally different situation

evans took over a team that was at the lowest ebb Liverpool has been in within living memory ....... rafa took over a team that had recently come close to winning the league then fallen back slightly ...... again totally different situations

evans had to rebuild the club from the bottom up, rafa didn't need to do this (though for some reason he has tried to claim he does and shafted the guy who brought through fowler, carragher, mcmanaman, owen, gerrard for not producing players good enough)

sorry rafar i am with emp on this - the prem should be easier as the top four have a huge advantage over the rest - in evans day you had no real advantage in money no matter where you finished in the league or how far you got in europe ..... rafa had a better starting base than evans with carragher, gerrard, hyypia, riise, finnan, hamann for starters

as for united destroying us with ease that is utter crap!! fergie used to change his tactics every game against us because of the hiding they would get - we used to batter them - remember the 2-2 draw at old stratford when there were no away fans allowed? cuntona's first match back and we played them off the park should have had a number of penalties, fowler got two and they got their second with a penalty that was a) not a foul and b) yards outside the box ...... later that season we beat them 2-0 at home ...... not really what i would call being destroyed!