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yes we have problems but they are not as bad as the press make out people tend to believr everything the press print

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Originally Posted By: taveman
yes we have problems but they are not as bad as the press make out people tend to believr everything the press print

i dont read the press and i dont need them to tell me we have problems.its clear for all to see.we are in a bad way injuries or no.the injuries just highlight the weaknesses we have,and we have lots.injuries dont stop alot of our players being crap.

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wow sky must be doing a great job of editing live games now and even chaging the results so that only people who go to anfield can get the real result and see the great job rafa is doing

mate were in a state now and its hard being positive with such poor results. if you go to watch lfc on a regular basis you hardly come out buzzing over a 2-2 draw with man city or birmingham do you?


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Originally Posted By: merv
Id lay most the blame at the feet of the two stupid fu*king wa*kers who control the club now. and our dear mr moores and the boy blunder (rick parry)
STOP blaming the owners it has nothing to do with them, the waiter brought the players to the club not them and it's purely and simply his fault if they are not good enough, blaming the owners is just deflecting the blame away from an incompetent manager. The manager we have in charge has assembled a squad that is just not good enough to make a title challenge after October, this is not a blip apart from last season every single season he has been in charge we have never had a title challende after xmas. We are now seventh in the league, how is this possible when we have the so called best striker in the league, so called best player in the league and so called best goalkeeper in the league we have midfielders that cost nearly 20 million pound, a full back who cost the same and the team is littered with players costing 10 million pound or more. Something is seriously wrong with our football Club and it's not just the owners fault, we are looking increasingly unlikely to qualify for next seasons Champions League and we are going to lose millions this season if we dont make the knock out stages,this new shirt sponsorship looks increasingly dodgy given the fact that in is supposed to include Champions League football.

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Ged - can you stop referring to Benitez as "the waiter" - it is racial stereotyping, if we had an Indian manager would you refer to him as "the Corner shop owner" or something similar?

Leave the name calling to the braindead fans of our rivals.

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I dont agree mate the owners have to take the blame as much as the manager has to. we need a lot more investment than those two can ever provide for us. i agree with the fact that rafas has bought a lot of crap players but babel is the dearest of them at £12m. the rest are bargain basement and i doubt he wanted to shop there.


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yes but i think we'll just have to wait till jan or next summer for the changes we need wink lets hope we can kick on and get a top 4 finish this season so we can keep gerrard and torres. like you say its a joke we are out of the running in november oh well always next year /sigh


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Originally Posted By: Gotti
Ged - can you stop referring to Benitez as "the waiter" - it is racial stereotyping, if we had an Indian manager would you refer to him as "the Corner shop owner" or something similar?

Leave the name calling to the braindead fans of our rivals.



very very well said lad.


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Originally Posted By: merv
I dont agree mate the owners have to take the blame as much as the manager has to. we need a lot more investment than those two can ever provide for us. i agree with the fact that rafas has bought a lot of crap players but babel is the dearest of them at £12m. the rest are bargain basement and i doubt he wanted to shop there.
Lets look at the players we have since the owners took over and decide if it's the owners fault or Benitez fault Johnson 17 million,, Skirtel 6.5 record, Agger 5.5 record, Dossena 7.5 record, Lucas 6.5, Mascherano 18.6 record, Babel 11.5 record,Reira 8 mill,Diego Cavalieri 4 mill,Alberto Aquilani 20 mill, Benyoun 5.5, Torres 22 million record, Robbie Keane 20 mil and Craig Bellamy 7.5 now these are only players who have cost major money and not including fringe players like Alvaro Arbeloa and Sebastian Leto e.t.c now i know people will say but he he has brought in money but being a fan am not interested in what comes into the club just what i see on the pitch and am afraid you cant say this current manager has not been given funds to bring in players by the owners

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Originally Posted By: kernowred
we have all been trying to work out why our form is so bad this season.we talk about bad luck we talk about injuries and all manor of reasons but the plain fact is we have way to many players who are no-where near good enough to be playing for Liverpool.
Kuyt,Insua,Lucas,Ngog,Skrtl to name just a few.every team who plays against us home or away know they have a very good chance of a victory purley based on the fact we aren't very good.
we are clueless going forward and we cant defend very well either especially from set pieces and whats worse is things are not going to change.Benitez is so set in his ways he doesn't know any other way,for example how long are we going to use this stupid zonal marking?how long are we going to play 2 defensive midfielders no matter how little we create going forward?
so to me its very simple we are a poor side and things are not going to change in a hurry infact with the owners we have and the lack of funds it may get worse.


I think you are wrong on many points. Skrtel has improved, Insua is improving all he time, Kuyt is a little down on form this season but he had the most assists and scored 13 goals last season so his effort work in more ways than one! Lucas has show that he can play and needs to do it more often. Ngog is a replacement for the injured Torres at the moment but has shown some reasonable signs. Saying we have no clue going forward is ridiculous as we are the third highest scoring team in the Prem. so how can we be so clueless going forward i ask??
Yes we are struggling defensively but can Rafa actually win? If we play defensively he gets slated because we play boring and now that we are more attacking we are leaking more goals and that's bound to happen.
Agree though that the zonal marking in defense is causing many issues at the moment but it has worked for us in the past so to me it's the players who aren't doing their job!!!
Lack of funds in the transfer market has certainly had an impact because we were on the verge of winning the title and Rafa hasn't been able to strengthen the squad and that has come back to hurt because of our injuries. The owners need to invest so have more depth in the squad!!!

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