|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
1st Team Regular
|
|
1st Team Regular
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988 |
I think if we win the FA cup (Hopefully) Kenny will not be removed and will be given an extra season and to be fair, I don't think anyone can argue with that winning those two trophies. His objective was to reach 4th in the league. That target was set for financial purposes. Winning a domestic pot or 2 is a mere drop in the ocean financially and should have no bearing on his future. All kenny has proved is that he is good in the cups and poor in the league. Why would next season be any different if we keep him? Financially we NEED the CL, hence the objective. To be fair we were never good in cups under the previous two managers, getting knocked out early in the 3rd rounds to lower opposition was always a hard pill to swallow. Kenny needs better players, he spent a lot but his players are not good enough sadly and that is why I think he can improve on the league with more quality plus add the good things he brings to the cup completions and we could have a very good season if given time.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
1st Team Regular
|
|
1st Team Regular
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988 |
Snakeye you seem very sure of what FSG will do. I know what I would do and its not impossible they would conclude the same as me. Kenny retire end of this season. But it could go the other way with them allowing him another season. We know very little about FSG other than what we have gleaned from the Redsox which is a totally different situation. I think deep down FSG feel Kenny was forced on them by fan pressure and ultimately he will go to be replaced by their choice the thing we don't know is when. Not at all stan, no one knows whether he will be removed or given a second chance. What I said is purely on gut feeling. I would definitely give him a fresh season considering the success we have had in the cups. As I said in my earlier post, he needs quality surrounding the team alongside Suarez and co in order to improve on the league position.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,163
1st Team Squad
|
|
1st Team Squad
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,163 |
Snakeye you seem very sure of what FSG will do. I know what I would do and its not impossible they would conclude the same as me. Kenny retire end of this season. But it could go the other way with them allowing him another season. We know very little about FSG other than what we have gleaned from the Redsox which is a totally different situation. I think deep down FSG feel Kenny was forced on them by fan pressure and ultimately he will go to be replaced by their choice the thing we don't know is when. Not at all stan, no one knows whether he will be removed or given a second chance. What I said is purely on gut feeling. I would definitely give him a fresh season considering the success we have had in the cups. As I said in my earlier post, he needs quality surrounding the team alongside Suarez and co in order to improve on the league position. That's not what he was asked to do though. He was told to qualify for the CL and must be judged on how close he was to target.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
1st Team Regular
|
|
1st Team Regular
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988 |
That's true, and I am not dismissing that and even us fans expected top4 and nothing else at the start of the season but things have not gone to plan in the league thanks to some bad purchasing from our club but have gone perfectly in the cup competitions and as the season got older it was clear the cup competitions were priority as the top 4 dream evaporated after that Arsenal defeat at Anfield. I think if you ask many fans, two trophies including the prestigious FA cup that every fan wanted at the start of the season ( I remember those comments) will be considered success by the majority of fans and owners.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 27,628
Liverpool Legend
|
|
Liverpool Legend
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 27,628 |
Yes CareeX I know that was the target set but pragmatism comes into play here we are where we are and we need to do whats best from the positon as at now. The decision is do the cups demonstrate there is scope for progress or is it a one of situation covering up for fundamental lack of managerial ability. I know what I think but I am not them.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,381
Under 23 Player
|
|
Under 23 Player
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,381 |
I think if we win the FA cup (Hopefully) Kenny will not be removed and will be given an extra season and to be fair, I don't think anyone can argue with that winning those two trophies. His objective was to reach 4th in the league. That target was set for financial purposes. Winning a domestic pot or 2 is a mere drop in the ocean financially and should have no bearing on his future. All kenny has proved is that he is good in the cups and poor in the league. Why would next season be any different if we keep him? Financially we NEED the CL, hence the objective. To be fair we were never good in cups under the previous two managers, getting knocked out early in the 3rd rounds to lower opposition was always a hard pill to swallow. Kenny needs better players, he spent a lot but his players are not good enough sadly and that is why I think he can improve on the league with more quality plus add the good things he brings to the cup completions and we could have a very good season if given time. But this is the issue, his players have not suited our strategy and system, and Kenny chose them. With better players anyone manager will do better, but can Kenny chose 'better' players that fit a system? On last years evidence. No.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988
1st Team Regular
|
|
1st Team Regular
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,988 |
bigred, even I have my doubts over Kenny's purchases sadly. I think this is one of his biggest downfalls. Transfers will no doubt need to improve if he needs to be more successful.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,163
1st Team Squad
|
|
1st Team Squad
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,163 |
I know alot of people on here would like to see kenny go but i'd prefare him to stay to see if his plans work out. As you said Stan there is no guarantee a new manager would fair any better. Fsg obviously know what goes on behind closed doors and may be prepared to carry on backing kenny for the time being.
Btw I've no problem fsg questioning kenny on anything as that's their job to do the best for the club along as they don't try to force the managers hand. Absolute lunacy, and one of the daftest comments I have ever read. If my boss ever decides to sack me, shall I tell him that there is no guarantee that my replacement will do any better?!? People get sacked for missing their targets and/or for underperforming. A calculated risk is then made on their replacement - how do you think kenny got the job in the first place? Is it really? Did Roy do better than rafa? Have any chelsea managers done better than jose? Is connor doing better than mc carthy? No! Think before you speak, a new manager does not mean instant success. WHAT?!?!? Have you even read what I posted?? And you tell ME to think before I speak. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955
Under 23 Player
|
|
Under 23 Player
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,955 |
I think if kenny stays, this time around he will buy players that he can fit into the system he wants.
WHATEVER THAT SYSTEM IS
I will listen, only if your answer contains wisdom
|
|
|
|
|
|
thundyr
Unregistered
|
|
thundyr
Unregistered
|
I think if kenny stays, this time around he will buy players that he can fit into the system he wants.
WHATEVER THAT SYSTEM IS
If that system wins, does it matter what it is?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
