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i totally agree, its funny how everyone would lower their expectations of our main striker just to get something positive to talk about. a next thing i find funny is, how most fan would want the team and management to try and adopt to andy carroll. I think he should try adopt to the team and if he cant sell him. Its one goal. lets hope he gets couple more.
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Of course, but the bashing crew would have you believe he is a total donkey.
His performances haven't gone a miss with me, even if he hasn't got the goals. He has played like this and in this way most of the time he has been played...he just hasn't got the goals.
Hopefully it carries on now. We need it. We expect it.
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If a striker isn't scoring goals, and isn't creating goals, then what's the point? Yeah we all love a trier and it's nice to see him win a few headers, but we could stick Yao Ming out there to huff and puff and jump really high - that doesn't mean he'd make a good footballer. I'm sorry, but putting forth an effort is the absolute bare minimum I expect from our players. And it's hard to get excited about someone winning a couple headers when that person is taller than 99% of the players on the pitch.
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If a striker isn't scoring goals, and isn't creating goals, then what's the point? Yeah we all love a trier and it's nice to see him win a few headers, but we could stick Yao Ming out there to huff and puff and jump really high - that doesn't mean he'd make a good footballer. I'm sorry, but putting forth an effort is the absolute bare minimum I expect from our players. And it's hard to get excited about someone winning a couple headers when that person is taller than 99% of the players on the pitch. Yes, what I'm saying is, when he doesn't score every week he's a "donkey" when he scores.....he's not. He has been playing like this in most games, he just hasn't put the ball into the back of the net.
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Not just saying this because he scored last night, but I think he should start against Everton. In fact, I'd start him in every single game til the end of the season. I don't know if he's going to be sold on at the end of the season or not, and I don't know if that's even been decided or not, but one thing is for sure in my mind - if he's playing for his future, then f*cking LET HIM play for his future. Everytime this season that he's scored, he's found himself on the bench in the next game or two. I don't agree with that and I'm not surprised that confidence is hard to come by for him.
Kenny said after the game that "two players" have played themselves into contention for the semi final - Wonder which two he meant?
Shelvey? Maxi?
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Not just saying this because he scored last night, but I think he should start against Everton. In fact, I'd start him in every single game til the end of the season. I don't know if he's going to be sold on at the end of the season or not, and I don't know if that's even been decided or not, but one thing is for sure in my mind - if he's playing for his future, then f*cking LET HIM play for his future. Everytime this season that he's scored, he's found himself on the bench in the next game or two. I don't agree with that and I'm not surprised that confidence is hard to come by for him.
Kenny said after the game that "two players" have played themselves into contention for the semi final - Wonder which two he meant?
Shelvey? Maxi? If Carroll doesn't start against Everton. Then I give up. I've already put it more down to management, if this happens, it will confirm it. I also heard Dalglish say "two" players. Henderson will probably be one (if he is fresh) and Maxi. But for me, Shelvey, Henderson, Maxi and Carroll should all start.
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"amusingly" up until the 92nd minute, Carroll's header back to Brad Jones was the closest he'd come to a goal for quite a while!
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Of course, but the bashing crew would have you believe he is a total donkey.
His performances haven't gone a miss with me, even if he hasn't got the goals. He has played like this and in this way most of the time he has been played...he just hasn't got the goals.
Hopefully it carries on now. We need it. We expect it. That's like saying 'so-and-so' is a great goalie except for all the goals he lets in!
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Of course, but the bashing crew would have you believe he is a total donkey.
His performances haven't gone a miss with me, even if he hasn't got the goals. He has played like this and in this way most of the time he has been played...he just hasn't got the goals.
Hopefully it carries on now. We need it. We expect it. That's like saying 'so-and-so' is a great goalie except for all the goals he lets in! Yes, we've often seen 'keepers having great seasons at teams who are near the bottom of the league or even relegated.
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If a striker isn't scoring goals, and isn't creating goals, then what's the point? Yeah we all love a trier and it's nice to see him win a few headers, but we could stick Yao Ming out there to huff and puff and jump really high - that doesn't mean he'd make a good footballer. I'm sorry, but putting forth an effort is the absolute bare minimum I expect from our players. And it's hard to get excited about someone winning a couple headers when that person is taller than 99% of the players on the pitch. Yes, what I'm saying is, when he doesn't score every week he's a "donkey" when he scores.....he's not. He has been playing like this in most games, he just hasn't put the ball into the back of the net. I don't know. For me, he's a donkey pretty much all the time. One swallow doesn't make a summer. I think it's pretty clear that we're not going to have a 20-goal striker on our hands unless something drastic happens. He's only recently gone from "Not looking bothered, not running, not trying, not scoring, flopping around and falling down a lot, having the touch of a rapist" to "Running around a bit, looking slightly more bothered, falling down slightly less, still not scoring, still having the touch of a rapist." There's been an improvement there, but not enough. He's never going to be able to justify his price - that's a given. I don't blame him for that. There are very few players that are worth £35 million. But he hasn't even really been able to justify a spot in the starting XI. I just don't see what he brings to the table. Whatever it is, it's certainly not goals. The fact that we have an "Andy Carroll Appreciation Thread" is absolutely ludicrous.
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