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#21110 15/11/09 04:06 PM
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I see he is making noises in the press about return to england. There's no doubt he is good manager and could well be linked with us. However it is said in the press today his favoured destination is Old Trafford when ferguson retires thought to be in next two years. Imagine that! how much would we hate them then?? have you enough vitriol in your system for that.


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If he wants to prove himself as one of the best ever, then a move to manure won't do it. If he wins trophies it will always be with a team that 'ol red nose put together.

his best bet at putting his name into the history books as one of the best ever is by taking a club like City or Spurs to trophies.

I'm suprised he is mentioning coming back to England, I always thought is next move would be Spain.


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United will want there next manager to continue Sir Alex's work they dont want someone to come in and change things and turn everything they have built in the last 20 odd years upside down and for that reason I would be shocked if Josei came in. Like it or not I think his prefered destination will be Liverpool we are taylor made for him as our club needsa complete overhaul from top to bottom and we need someone who will go against the grain and really shake the club up and thats why I think he will be in the frame to take over. My own personal preference would be Guus Hiddink he has history of turning loss causes around as you only have to look at what he done with South Korea, Austrailia and now Russia he also turned Chelsea's disasterous season around last season, players want to play for him and he has full respect around the world. If we cant have Hiddink i would even go as far as to say i would'nt mind a young, untested, hungry manager coming in with fresh ideas maybe a Slaven Bilic or Michael Laudrup much in the same way as Barcelona took a chance on Pepe Guardiola.

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Getthere thats a very astute analysis I think you may have a point.


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be ready to pay as chealse and Inter then ..?


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According to the journo's Mourinhio and Fergie get on well and he makes himself at home whenever he visits Old trafford. However the Board dont like him or want him to get the managerial post as they are worried he will demolish the youth system that has been set up. Mark Hughes is their favourite apparently.

I would not be surprised if he was sounded out for us, although I doubt we have the finances to get rid of rafa and all his team - the compensation would run into millions and we are not exactly flush at the mo.

I hated Mourinhio when he was at Chelsea - found him too arrogant and ignorant to be honest. That said I have a sneaky suspicion that he would get more out of the players that rafa is able to, and one of his strengths is man management and building a cohesive and comfident team.

I wouldnt be sorry to see him replace Benitez at some time.

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i believe a move for his services at Old Toilet is quite quite imminent in an year or so...


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he wont go to man utd. i would imagine he enjoyed taking chelsea into the top four and upsetting the apple cart (or as bertie ahern would say, the apple tart). i would imagine man city is the target.
as for lfc being a lost cause in need of a total overhaul, talk about a dramatised exaggeration. i think this craze of throwing hands in the air and despairing is pointless and nothing more than tantrum throwing because people are not getting what they want. the facts are, were not the best team in the league at the moment, but we are far far from the worst. Temporarily injury ravaged and off form, but overhauling the club from top to bottom as a solution? no logic to it whatsoever.
lastly, this fanciful notion of some young hungry inexperienced manager coming in and saving the day is like trying to pay off your house by putting your savings on a 1000/1 horse thats never run before. great if it works but so reckless it could destroy the club. (the phrase throwing the baby out with the bathwater springs to mind) it would result in a situation where we really would have to despair. and the people who wanted it would be the very people who would go on and on about how stupid an idea it was and why did we not a)stick with raffa or b)bring in a bigname.


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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa
rafa is a dead duck..he has no more get out of jail cards..we lose to city on saturday and he is gone..and a manager cannot run a club under the sword..i don't know why we haven't let him go already and appointed kenny as a temp.we all know its going to happen sooner or later.we haven't won a game in about 3months


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Originally Posted By: flameboy09
he wont go to man utd. i would imagine he enjoyed taking chelsea into the top four and upsetting the apple cart (or as bertie ahern would say, the apple tart). i would imagine man city is the target.
as for lfc being a lost cause in need of a total overhaul, talk about a dramatised exaggeration. i think this craze of throwing hands in the air and despairing is pointless and nothing more than tantrum throwing because people are not getting what they want. the facts are, were not the best team in the league at the moment, but we are far far from the worst. Temporarily injury ravaged and off form, but overhauling the club from top to bottom as a solution? no logic to it whatsoever.
lastly, this fanciful notion of some young hungry inexperienced manager coming in and saving the day is like trying to pay off your house by putting your savings on a 1000/1 horse thats never run before. great if it works but so reckless it could destroy the club. (the phrase throwing the baby out with the bathwater springs to mind) it would result in a situation where we really would have to despair. and the people who wanted it would be the very people who would go on and on about how stupid an idea it was and why did we not a)stick with raffa or b)bring in a bigname.
You make me laugh when you say we are not the best team at the moment think thats a massive understatement, try telling the truth and saying we have'nt been a good team for 20 years which is more realistic, we were not even a good team when we won the Champions league as we lost about 15 games that season and even finished 5th below a very ordinary Everton side.
I am not sayin we are the worst but come on, apart from last season and the one under Roy Evans we have only ever been in two title challenges realisticaly in those 20 years so yes i do feel the club is in need of a drastic overhaul because lets face it what do we have to lose in trying to get back to the top.
You mention injury ravaged well am afraid thats not true either our full team played in games against Spurs, Chelsea and Villa and we still were'nt good enough so blaming injuries is no excuse.
The club needs a complete overhaul from Hicks, Gillette, Benitez, Sammy Lee, Pellagrino and all the Benitez Hangers on, the club made a massive, massive mistake by giving him full control of the Club and we are now seeing the damage this is causing. The longer this fool stays in charge the more likely we are to miss out on the top four. I am not saying a young up and coming manager will work but what I am saying is we have had managers with experience who think they know it all for our last two managers, they have both been bogged down with tactics instead of letting teams worry about us and I think a young manager with a fresh approach to the game might just work for us, its a gamble yes, but given the way we have been for the last twenty years it's a gamble i feel we can take.

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