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what a load of rubbish. youtube sammi's last game for the club, watch him in tears at the end of the game and then tell me he doesnt love the fans at liverpool.

i honestly wonder why some people bother watchin football if they are so cynical about it.

is it really so dreadful to have hope, to love your team? theres times i get slated on this forum for merely supporting the team and focusing on positives. but Ged your comment is so loaded with contempt for the club and the game its actually a little surprising. why bother if this is your view on things.


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Alright guys let's put our differences aside we alll got our own opionions and get back to buisness. I thought this was about the transfer dealings lol. I hope Voronin Dossenna are out in january which is likely maybe babel to. I would like babel to stay but i also really want elia to come. This guy has got massive talent can be huge for the reds!! Hopefully we can get Elia and VDV that would be great and fill up the depth in the squad. I know some of you guys are wondering where this money will come from, but for once i think we got it!! If we sell voronin dossena and babel we have the funds for Elia i just don't know if he will come in jan cuz he just got to the club in the summer, hopefully. Van der varrt is a little less complicated bcuz he is looking for first team football and at a bargain price, i also think Masch will leave in the summer for a decent fee or 30 or 35 million, the ideal move would be to loan VDV and if he does well sign him permanetlly in the summer. These two would make a tremdous impact for the reds its a while im following these guys, all tought they have been liknked with about a dozen names i like these two the most.!! YNWA lets ggett the flying dutchmeeeeeenn

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Originally Posted By: emperor rafa
ged there is more to life than money..sure its important but people have parallel motivations ,torres knew he had to move from his home club and to improve himself,but before he signed for us he locked himself in his hotel room with loads of lfc history dvd's ..why would he bother doing that if all he wants is a bigger contract..i have no problem with players wanting to improve themselves and getting more money or better conditions. but money gathering is not a natural urge and all people have more natural urges like being respected,achievements . if it was all about money kaka would be in sky blue
City just never offered Kaka enough money to play for them simple as, if they offered him
500,000 a game or a million instead of just 250,000 a week he would of signed like any player playing now would of.

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torres was offered 3 times as much money to sign for man united or chelsea - arsenal offered him twice as much as we did - yet he chose to sign for us ....... since joining us chelsea have twice asked him to name his price to join them - both times he has told them that the money is irrelevant he has no interest in joining them - tell me how that is greed? tell me how that is a player milking the premier league cash cow?

then there is carra - he earns a lot less than he could because he always just says to the club 'pay me what you think i am worth' when it comes to contract negotiations - do you really think he couldn't have gotten more money if he wanted to? you can talk all the crap you want about him not loving the club because he was once an evertonian but he has developed a genuine affection and love of the club over the years - that much i am sure of ...... like God and macca did before him

not everyone is in it for the money - otherwise we wouldn't have the burnleys or hull citys or brighton and hove albions in existence

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Carragher might have affection for Liverpool but he will always be an evertonian it's what your born with, you see thats the difference between fans form the City who are born and bred supporters of the club who represents them rather than people who support the club from outside the City who choose to support them because they are successful. As you said fans from Hull's and Burnleys will always get more respect than fans who live outside the area because the local fans love is genuine and not manufactured like Out Of Town fans.If Torres genuinely loved Athletico he would of stayed with them no matter how much money was offered or how much another team might win, same goes for Gerrard who wanted to go to Chelsea, If you read Carragher's book he says the day he stops being an Automatic choice he will walk out of the club and sign for someone else, thats shows how much love players have for the clubs they play for nowadays.

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this is def one of the best thread, is reaching almost 90 posts..

anyhow the result is still the same, pro-cons between rafa stay or out...

for me, leave rafa alone for this season, we're not goin down to c'ship league anyway, if we out in CL and in big 4, than we

can continue to discuss this further, try to find other managers...

my reason is, if rafa is sacked in january, no one can safe this team either, it's just too late, bet the likes of daglish can put us through in CL or in top 4, he's too long be unemployment...

i will not talk about the money and economy that we have, t's just too away above my head, just talk good game in field, one think i hate about rafa is he's too stonehead, with tactics
that is just to easy to read, hopefully he can changed, and start to listen to fans critics...

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Originally Posted By: Emir Bin Anfield
this is def one of the best thread, is reaching almost 90 posts..

anyhow the result is still the same, pro-cons between rafa stay or out...

for me, leave rafa alone for this season, we're not goin down to c'ship league anyway, if we out in CL and in big 4, than we

can continue to discuss this further, try to find other managers...

my reason is, if rafa is sacked in january, no one can safe this team either, it's just too late, bet the likes of daglish can put us through in CL or in top 4, he's too long be unemployment...

i will not talk about the money and economy that we have, t's just too away above my head, just talk good game in field, one think i hate about rafa is he's too stonehead, with tactics
that is just to easy to read, hopefully he can changed, and start to listen to fans critics...



that is the best we can do...whether we love or hate Rafa....


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look, nobody can change Rafa now, the only thing we got to do is support our club and get to December and then we can see where we stand. We can build good momentum this weekend.

Beat City, Beat Debrecen, Beat Everton and we head into December with a string of good results under our belt. I think that is more important than fighting over a fat waiter or a thin waiter. This waiter argument is nothing but frustration.

If you are not frustrated with the teams current performances then you aint a true red. To forget who we are and what we stand for is really negligent and foolish.

Im gutted, i hate Voronin, i hate babels attitude, but there aint anything we can do now. Fighting and arguing over the manager is fruitless.

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Originally Posted By: Injun Joe
look, nobody can change Rafa now, the only thing we got to do is support our club and get to December and then we can see where we stand. We can build good momentum this weekend.

Beat City, Beat Debrecen, Beat Everton and we head into December with a string of good results under our belt. I think that is more important than fighting over a fat waiter or a thin waiter. This waiter argument is nothing but frustration.

If you are not frustrated with the teams current performances then you aint a true red. To forget who we are and what we stand for is really negligent and foolish.

Im gutted, i hate Voronin, i hate babels attitude, but there aint anything we can do now. Fighting and arguing over the manager is fruitless.


thats fightin talk. laugh


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Guy, im getting worried with this transfer market, i feel that liverpool won't sign anyone even tough we have been linked with at least 20 players, and good ones to. I see here Chelsea Man u Arsenal being linked with big names to but what scares me is they have the money to purchase and we don't!. I mean how strong will chelsea be if they sign Kun Augero!! very strong stikers, what chance will we have? Especially in such a difficult position we are in now. I feel that we will just lose players in the transfer that being a good thing like voronin leaving and dossena but will we sign anyone? I just have a feeling that we won't!!! What do you guys think will happen??

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