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Re: If pigs were to fly....... Carheex #207559 03/04/12 08:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,365 C cp1972 Under 23 Player
cp1972 Under 23 Player C Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,365	Originally Posted By: CarheeX Originally Posted By: cp1972 Originally Posted By: Stanley Park I would ask Kenny to resign and retain Commoli. Commoli's job is director of football what we used to call chief scout. Whether Commoli is up to the job of chief scout will be decided but the main appointment is the manasger and we have not had a proper manager since Rafa in my view. Hodgson was better than Dalglish but still not of the calibre to manage Liverpool. Stanley - You have a massive hang up on Dalglish from his first period in charge and you need to get over it. It is clouding your normally well constructed arguments. those comments about Dalglish and Hodsgon make you look more like RED4LIFE than a long time LFC follower. He's right though, Hodgson is better than dalglish so I'm not sure what your problem is. without foundation so we will agree to disagree. I believe i should insult you and Stanley now - let me think, 'll be back later

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Stanley Park #207820 04/04/12 06:27 AM
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Top4 Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,886 The wall	Originally Posted By: Stanley Park CP1972 my long standing hang up about Dalglish is not without foundation. I know you are a long standing supporter like me who attends at Anfield. We all have our opinions and on this we disagree. But the main damage Dalglish did to this club was in 89/ 90 / 91 from which we have never recovered even to this day. And yes I do know we won the league and FA in those years. But once he left in 1991 the club was a train crash from which we have never recovered. In terms of Dalglish today I see the same only even worse and as for comparisons with Hodsgon why is Dalglish better than Hodgson I see no clear difference and I firmly believe Hodgson would have spent that huge transfer money more wisely than Dalglish. I've seen you reference this many times Stan in a scathing, unsympathetic manner and find it frankly shocking that you appear unable to reconcile the reasons why Kenny felt he was unable to continue in the job at that time. There is much documented on the circumstances and you quite clearly need to reflect again on that time in the city and club. The man is a human being; to blame him for the demise at a period when all he saw was death is appalling. I will go no further as it is highly likely I'll be banned from the forum. Last edited by Top4; 04/04/12 06:28 AM. Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. George Washington

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Top4 #207850 04/04/12 12:38 PM
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Snakeye 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 10,988 New Zealand	Am not going to blame Kenny for his first reign because I was a little kid and don't know nothing about it however I ask if he was so emotionally distressed with that disaster why did he join another team just months after he left us? Seems very strange to me. Yes it's a different club you might ask but that's football and what happened with Liverpool could of happened with Blackburn too. Back to Back World Champions baby!

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Stanley Park #207860 04/04/12 01:16 PM
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Manliverpool Unregistered M	Originally Posted By: Stanley Park Adam all your points are valid. I watched every game home and away in Dalglish's first reign football is all about opinions here is mine. Dalglish destroyed Liverpool he took the best club in the world and left us a side barely capable of top six. He quit just before it collasped leaving Souness to pick up the damage. At Blackburn he had short term success then quit before it collasped again. He was a failure at Newcastle and Celtic then out of the game for over a decade. How anybody in their right mind thought he would be a success in 2011 is beyond me. The damage he is doing today in 2012 could be terminal. We might look at todays mid table position in a year or two and think this is a golden age. Please dont scare us!!!! Its bad but we will overcome. The best way is to SACK KENNY and the owners will do that come the end of the year!!! HE is such a BITTER PILL its not funny.

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Snakeye #207863 04/04/12 01:45 PM
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Top4 Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,886 The wall	Originally Posted By: Snakeye Am not going to blame Kenny for his first reign because I was a little kid and don't know nothing about it however I ask if he was so emotionally distressed with that disaster why did he join another team just months after he left us? Seems very strange to me. Yes it's a different club you might ask but that's football and what happened with Liverpool could of happened with Blackburn too. Snake, This has also been written on extensively. It has also been referenced many times that he wanted to return when he felt able to deal with things again, but obviously by then Souness was manager and the rest is history. Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. George Washington

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Top4 #207886 04/04/12 02:27 PM
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Snakeye 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 10,988 New Zealand	Originally Posted By: Top4 Originally Posted By: Snakeye Am not going to blame Kenny for his first reign because I was a little kid and don't know nothing about it however I ask if he was so emotionally distressed with that disaster why did he join another team just months after he left us? Seems very strange to me. Yes it's a different club you might ask but that's football and what happened with Liverpool could of happened with Blackburn too. Snake, This has also been written on extensively. It has also been referenced many times that he wanted to return when he felt able to deal with things again, but obviously by then Souness was manager and the rest is history. Could be right there mate, I need to do some extensive reading on this. Back to Back World Champions baby!

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Snakeye #207956 04/04/12 05:07 PM
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adammcl Trialist A Joined: May 2011 Posts: 27 Wirral, Merseyside	I would hope that Kenny "resigns" rather than be sacked if it were to come to that. However, I feel that if the FA Cup was to be delivered then it will buy him more time. As stupid as it sounds, I feel that winning the FA Cup will only do us more damage in the long run. The league is where it matters for me.

Re: If pigs were to fly....... adammcl #207983 04/04/12 07:11 PM
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Snakeye 1st Team Regular Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 10,988 New Zealand	How can FA cup do damage to us? Crazy analogy man. I really hope we get to the final and try to win it, I don't care what future damage you might thin it will do. If kenny stays for another season than so be it. Every fan wants to win the FA cup. Back to Back World Champions baby!

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Snakeye #207990 04/04/12 07:24 PM
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van Gogh 1st Team Squad V Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 9,605 Out Of Town	I think the owners are smart enough to keep these 2 issues apart. 1) Missing 4:th place in PL 2) Winning 2 domestic cups If those 2 points were to be fullfilled that is. No matter what I simply assume FSG will act correspondingly if they feel the club hasn't lived up to their expectations this season. I can see 1 or 2 different scenarios panning out, and I don't think the outcome of the FA Cup has much to do with it: a) Kenny will be sacked, a new manager will be installed and a bunch of players will be bought (others will be sold). b) Kenny stays and a bunch of players will be bought (others will be sold). Either way I'll be expecting a massive improvement in the league form next season. The problem with that is we're facing Europa League nights as well! We need to build on the squad.

Re: If pigs were to fly....... Snakeye #208105 05/04/12 01:06 AM
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adammcl Trialist A Joined: May 2011 Posts: 27 Wirral, Merseyside	By winning the FA Cup I think it will buy Kenny more time and I don't necessarily think that this will be good in the long term. Of course I want us to win it but for future progress an FA Cup win will just mask what has been a dreadful league campaign. Last edited by adammcl; 05/04/12 01:06 AM.

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