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Originally Posted By: cp1972
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I have a solution for you mate.

Play youngsters from now until the end of the season. The seniors know the league is over therefore will not bother putting even 50% effort into it.

Play the academy reserves and hopefully we will see one or two of them shine.


thats what Hodgson did against Northampton and it back fired. Youngsters need to play with better players to improve,so throwing a large group in defeats the object. However, a lot more has gone on than we realise. Several are now training with the first team and Sterling and Coady have been warming up on matchday to experience the pre-match feeling. It takes time to blood young players but we have started - I count 6 under 21 who are in and around the first team - Sterling, Coady, Shelvey, Flanaghan, Robinson, eccleston. All within the last 6mths. Quite a shift from where Hodgson and even Rafa to some extent.

Throw in Coates and Kelly and thats 8 who will get first team experience over the next year or so. That is a massive swing in policy.


Hodgson chucked the youngsters in a pressure situation to go for the carling cup. The league is over and has been since the Arsenal defeat, there is no pressure and besides we already know the outcome when Stevie and co start so why bother? I say give them a go may be let Skrtel lead them and let Hendersen, and Carroll play with them to learn as well but no others.


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Kelly Coates Skrtel Enrique
Spearing Henderson
Downing Gerrard Sterling
Suarez
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Same back 5
Johnson Henderson Gerrard Sterling
Carroll Suarez

Have a few youngsters on the bench as well to throw them in on the 60 min mark and give them the experience they need

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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Originally Posted By: cp1972
Originally Posted By: Snakeye
I have a solution for you mate.

Play youngsters from now until the end of the season. The seniors know the league is over therefore will not bother putting even 50% effort into it.

Play the academy reserves and hopefully we will see one or two of them shine.


thats what Hodgson did against Northampton and it back fired. Youngsters need to play with better players to improve,so throwing a large group in defeats the object. However, a lot more has gone on than we realise. Several are now training with the first team and Sterling and Coady have been warming up on matchday to experience the pre-match feeling. It takes time to blood young players but we have started - I count 6 under 21 who are in and around the first team - Sterling, Coady, Shelvey, Flanaghan, Robinson, eccleston. All within the last 6mths. Quite a shift from where Hodgson and even Rafa to some extent.

Throw in Coates and Kelly and thats 8 who will get first team experience over the next year or so. That is a massive swing in policy.


Hodgson chucked the youngsters in a pressure situation to go for the carling cup. The league is over and has been since the Arsenal defeat, there is no pressure and besides we already know the outcome when Stevie and co start so why bother? I say give them a go may be let Skrtel lead them and let Hendersen, and Carroll play with them to learn as well but no others.


It is very rare for the idea of throwing a large number of youngsters in at once to work. It has happened, obviously for utd it worked wonders, but it rarely works well. Pick 2 or 3 of the best, and play them. Sterling, Shelvy, and one other...I'd not pick morgan for the sole reason that I want to give Carroll every minute of every game for the rest of the season to see if he can show something, anything, for me to think he's worth keeping this summer.

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I know what you mean bigred but surely they can't play any worse then our bunch of seniors? Its rare but I like to see it even if its for one game only.


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did you see the reserves in that european comp? they were garbage. they would be torn apart by villa.


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I see your point flames but maybe some of the reserves to play because lets be honest they might give more than the current squad that don't seem that bothered

I would rather lose a game but play as best as you can then lose one by not trying

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did you see the reserves in that european comp? they were garbage. they would be torn apart by villa.


I don't care if they will be torn apart, at least they will get premiership experience. We will lose or get a draw anyway if the seniors play so it really doesn't matter from now on. I say play the reserves even if they get hammered. The experience will only be good to them.


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We need fresh ideas, because the ones we have are either bad or have been found out.

What bothers me is that we've changed our ideas (tactics, formation etc) so often this season it seems more a case that nothing we do can be made to work. I'm sure Kenny would have stuck with a formula had it proven to be a winning one, but even winning two games in succession with Carroll, Suarez, Gerrard, and Spearing as the central (not left or right) engine of a 4-4-2 did not inspire Kenny to play them like that in any of the 3 games since. In fact we've not even played 4-4-2 since, let alone that collection of players in those positions. The game vs barcodes was the first time they all started again, but Suarez was wide on the left (for about the first time this season) and therefore he never featured in the game.

Our ideas (if they can be called such) seem to revolve around playing key players out of position or in roles unsuited to the player. It suggests that the manager is not in touch with the capabilities of his squad, and that quite frankly means that both Kenny and Steve Clark (and maybe Kevin Keen) are simply not doing their jobs.

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well if we play 4-5-1 again i think i may headbutt a brick wall lol

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