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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
I'm not taking anything badly.

Your defence of Kenny is admirable but you are becoming deluded.

Football is a results driven business and he isn't getting enough positive results.

Neither Rafa or Houllier ever ballsed it up as spectacularly as Kenny has this time around.

Kenny hasn't worked out, it's not a case of if....

Whoever the new manager is, he will have his work cut out restoring confidence, on and off the pitch, that's for sure.

Kenny Dalglish is an absolute legend at Liverpool Football Club but this time around the job has been a bridge too far.









You're distilling my arguments into an unfair summary. Firstly, the season is not over and the owners will make a decision based on the full results of the season, which might bring two out of three trophies.

Also, I have defended Kenny in terms of how he is treated by fans. I have also spoken about him potentially being replaced quite openly. You assume that because I do not want Rafa back then I choose to persist with Kenny indefinitely. This is not the case. If Kenny wins two cups, then the case can be made that he has something to build on next season. This must be coupled with a better transfer market session than last season - we all agree on that. But if the owners decide that he has not the grade - so be it - I will support that gladly. I'd much rather have an exciting new dynamic manager with a fresh approach than going back to Rafa - and in this I am not alone. I respect what Rafa did for us though.


Yeah, he might win another cup or two and another cup or two the following year, but that bears no significance to us moving forward and bringing the league title back to an field. And we have seen very clearly that the cup wins do not bring about a winning mentality or prove to be a platform to work from. The cups and the league have no connection. We're a decent cupside but an awful league side and that is NOT what we want to be. So regardless of th fa cup outcome kd needs to go,the sooner the better please.

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The day we can have the mentality and technical ability of the scum is the day we truly have moved forward. FFS how many times have we seen them win games at the death and the blackburn game last night was another. And how many times have we lost games due to late goals? We're the new blackburn.

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I can see you all posting the same [oops] about Rafa (if God forbid) he is appointed again ......

save the trouble.let the guy serve the city and the SOS ... hes good at that. may be...


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I really hope your right. What that guy did under the circumstances, what nothing short of a miracle!

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Just read this article on the LFC News page.
http://www.koptalk.co.uk/201204034369/Li...gs-backing.html

Now obviously we'll never know if he would have succeeded if he'd stayed on, but I do wonder.
Any answer is mere speculation however.

IF KD had to go..BIG IF, I'd be happy to see him given another chance.

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Yeah same here Growler, I often wonder what he would have done with a £100m budget.

I would have him back tomorrow.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Yeah same here Growler, I often wonder what he would have done with a £100m budget.

I would have him back tomorrow.



I do worry about all the tales near the end of his reign regarding him 'losing the dressing room' however, a dressing room that still has players that he alledgedly fell out with.

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Rafa has seen first hand now (with this break) what it takes to be successful, on the pitch and off it.

If the man has learned from his mistakes, learned from other successful managers and clubs, by watching and analyzing how teams that are successful today, tick, then I'd be more than willing for Rafa to come back and show us what he can do, if the owners are right behind him.

I know some of you wouldn't take him back, either because of sentiment again or you just want something fresh, but your there to be proved wrong, just like me and everybody else.

I believe Rafa can come back and be a lot more successful second time around....but only if we act quick and get him soon, leave it another 10-15 years and we'll have Dalglish number 2 again.

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I think if we get a new manager in and it goes horribly wrong in the first few weeks the fans will not give him time and will start shouting for Rafa again. This is the only reason I want rafa to come in next, have his second reign and if he fails, the fans will stop shouting for his name when a newer manager arrives. Is rafa the only one remaining that the fans will be chanting his name or is there another one I've missed?


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I still think AVB is a possibility given how much FSG wanted him before they gave Kenny a 3 year contract!!!

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