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I think we are a club in chaos. Yesterday reminded me of an under 13's match with players not knowing what their jobs were, some played out of position (been going on all season),long faces, poor body language, indiscipline, ridiculous substitutions (never, ever take a player off who is copping it from his former home crowd and he wasn't the worst on the field) and ending with the manager running onto the pitch.

And to put things into perspective we have a number of serious problems:
- Why are we obsessed with defensive midfielders. Its a position to excuse a limited player. We are also conceding goals so what's the point? Where has 'wee Jay' been all these years at the club if he's so great. He's bobbins. 100% effort is the minimum requirements. Quality is what counts.
- Dalglish has chopped and changed all season. Players don't know if they will stay in the team after a decent game and if they are what position will they play. Henderson has had some flak but he's been played on the right wing for most of the season . Basically because we don't have a right winger.
- Tactics and substituions are questionable especially at home. We've played defensive midfielder in nearly every home game culminating in Stoke when Carra played the role. Embarrasing for him and us.
- Pardew said we don't know how to play with Carroll in the team. Too right we don't. When he plays we keep Downing on the bench. When he doesn't we're swinging crosses in.
- We've done well in cups because there's nothing to preserve. You win or you're out. Dalglish (like Benitez) is on the page of 'we've got a point at the start and we don't concede we've got at least a point at the end' in the Prem. Asking for trouble. We have lost nearly 80% of games when we conced first. Fact.

Dalglish was a great player, a great ambassador for the club but he's damaging our and his own reputation at the meoment. He himself will know that this is a shambles and will do the right thing. We have to break the bank for a world class manager (not sure who yet tbh)- but it is an investment more important than any player signing.

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I would defo keep Kenny until the summer, no point replacing him with so little games to go and nothing to play for in the league. Even then though I would look at the season and analyze it as a whole. Would definitely get rid of Comolli, his scouting plan is horrendous and if I was John Henry and saw that he had scouted and splashed out 110m on the players we had bought, he'd be straight out the door.
And to end, I think the good thing about Kenny is that he has give some youngsters playing time in the first team (would like to see sterling and Morgan more though) and I'd like to see Rafa replace him.

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Originally Posted By: SkinsVsPigeon
I would defo keep Kenny until the summer, no point replacing him with so little games to go and nothing to play for in the league. Even then though I would look at the season and analyze it as a whole. Would definitely get rid of Comolli, his scouting plan is horrendous and if I was John Henry and saw that he had scouted and splashed out 110m on the players we had bought, he'd be straight out the door.
And to end, I think the good thing about Kenny is that he has give some youngsters playing time in the first team (would like to see sterling and Morgan more though) and I'd like to see Rafa replace him.


I think I would also wait until summer. I'm no fan of Kenny, but it would be pointless to sack him now. We couldn't lure a top level manager with a handful of games remaining, so we would be stuck with a caretaker - most likely Steve Clarke, or possibly, albeit not at all likely, Carra or Stevie is player-manager. And to be honest, I don't think they'd do any better than Kenny would in the short-term. I doubt Rafa would come back as a caretaker without given assurance that he'd be given the job permanently in time. However, I do think that if we end up sacking Kenny, it should happen almost immediately after the season is over. We need to give his replacement a sufficient amount of time to work with the squad, because the Euros will complicate things. Emery looks set to leave Valencia. I would certainly welcome him. Then there would also be the possibility that he could bring Soldado or other Spanish players with him - an added bonus. If Dunk's allegations are correct - that Comolli is responsible for the fees paid for Carroll, Henderson, Downing, etc. - then he should never be allowed near our club again. That man has done nearly as much damage to our finances as H&G!


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i agree but i don't like the thought of it happening before the end of the season.however what do you think of this scenario:fsg have contacted another manager who is studying the team aware from the glare and working out replacements and what needs to be done to get us motoring.all this is being done with kenny's blessing who may have said to mr henry i can't do it get a replacement.i know refer you to the post Does Rafa Know Something We Don't.he knows the club so wouldn't need to be on the ground as such he knows football well enough to be able to build a team to at least challenge for fourth,i know it should be first but rome wasn't built in a day.what you think or has the nepalese finally melted my brain?

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Originally Posted By: jboy
i agree but i don't like the thought of it happening before the end of the season.however what do you think of this scenario:fsg have contacted another manager who is studying the team aware from the glare and working out replacements and what needs to be done to get us motoring.all this is being done with kenny's blessing who may have said to mr henry i can't do it get a replacement.i know refer you to the post Does Rafa Know Something We Don't.he knows the club so wouldn't need to be on the ground as such he knows football well enough to be able to build a team to at least challenge for fourth,i know it should be first but rome wasn't built in a day.what you think or has the nepalese finally melted my brain?


The way I see it, if FSG have decided ken is to go and then they should let him go. In all other walks of life if you screw up badly and waste millions of company badly you get sacked pretty sharp-ish - no one says, "sorry son but you've wasted a ton of money and we're worse off than last year because of you, so you're sacked........in 8 weeks time!"


Is it more important that the club/new manager has ample time to prepare for the 2012/13 season to avoid further humiliation, or should we jeapordise that so kenny can have a crack at another cup?

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fair point,act now or it will be crap next season too.i really wish the euros weren't on,we could do without the time delay and the increased market value

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Lets face it if he were to get the sack (which he won't) it would have been done already, he will get at least the rest of the season, unless we lose to villa and bluenoses?

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Sack his ass now

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what do you mean he answered the call.he humbly agreed kenny had been angling for the job before roy got it.this is not an anti-kenny rant just correcting your mistake.i also agree he knows his errors and that his job is on the line.i wonder what would have happened if he had gottten the job instead of roy?

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Originally Posted By: jboy
what do you mean he answered the call.he humbly agreed kenny had been angling for the job before roy got it.this is not an anti-kenny rant just correcting your mistake.i also agree he knows his errors and that his job is on the line.i wonder what would have happened if he had gottten the job instead of roy?


They we probably would be lobbying for Roy now ffs. That's a worse scenerio IMO.

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