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I thought this was a good read does not tell us anything but nicely sets the perspective on our owners in Boston and the mindset. By all accounts Henry is pretty ruthless when things don’t progress to his targets and quite right too as a Liverpool fan I want us to be totally focussed on success as we once were. If you think back to the Liverpool of the 1970’s (particularly late 70’s) they were utterly ruthless if a player was not up to it he was moved on quickly and there was always someone who could step into that players position. In terms of the managers back then it’s hard to say we always had good managers so we never knew what would have been the case had we had a poor one. I suspect the same as the players. As for Henry as you all know I have been frustrated at the lack of action. Maybe this close season will be the time he acts we need some form of action from him on the ground position and the vision for the club. The club is going nowhere at the moment yes we have had some commercial deals but nothing of substance in terms of the long term direction. I hope it happens in a few months and that could timing wise work out with the Dalglish situation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footbal...-US-owners.html
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Good read , even if the writers geography is a bit questionable. I've watched Henry turn around a stagnant baseball club over several seasons, and I've seen the genuine joy that he got from winning the World Series (I know, stupid name) and especially beating the NY Yankees to do so. My point is Henry is in it for the long term, but at the end of the day he's an investor and expects a return, I think we'll see some changes over the summer
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I hope he sees value in Rafa and brings him back to where he should belong.
Ok before you start the rafa-bashing, let me ask all one question: Who do you think will do well at LFC as manager?
For rafa, I know that the minimum is that he'll bring in quality players and make a challenge for the title. His tactical knowledge of the game in UK is far better than any other european managers. If he's appointed, you can be assured of a certain degree of success. Ok it might be a challenge to win the league (as some people deem as a failure), but as least we know we will mount a respectable challenge. This I'm sure of rafa's ability.
If we get someone else in, it's no guaranteed success and if he has no EPL experience, it can go awry as we've seen with AVB - the hottest manager last summer. The chance of this new manager succeeding is probably going to be less than a high-probability bet in Rafa.
That's the reason why I want rafa back. Because he knows the club, he loves the club and he knows the league enough to know what it will take to make a challenge for it.
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SENTIMENT the liverpool f.c. killer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I hope he sees value in Rafa and brings him back to where he should belong.
Ok before you start the rafa-bashing, let me ask all one question: Who do you think will do well at LFC as manager?
For rafa, I know that the minimum is that he'll bring in quality players and make a challenge for the title. His tactical knowledge of the game in UK is far better than any other european managers. If he's appointed, you can be assured of a certain degree of success. Ok it might be a challenge to win the league (as some people deem as a failure), but as least we know we will mount a respectable challenge. This I'm sure of rafa's ability.
If we get someone else in, it's no guaranteed success and if he has no EPL experience, it can go awry as we've seen with AVB - the hottest manager last summer. The chance of this new manager succeeding is probably going to be less than a high-probability bet in Rafa.
That's the reason why I want rafa back. Because he knows the club, he loves the club and he knows the league enough to know what it will take to make a challenge for it. Again let me start be saying I am a MASSIVE rafa fan. But what is all this we KNOW he will make a title challenge? We don't know that at all. He made one title challenge in six years. Yes he's likely to have more money now but he has plenty of bad signings as well as good. I love rafa and think he was great for us, but you are blinkered to think 'he WILL bring in quality, he WILL make a title challenege'. There is NO reason to think that what so ever. Equally there's no reason to staunchly believe he won't but stop pretending like either way is a foregone conclusion.
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I hope he sees value in Rafa and brings him back to where he should belong.
Ok before you start the rafa-bashing, let me ask all one question: Who do you think will do well at LFC as manager?
For rafa, I know that the minimum is that he'll bring in quality players and make a challenge for the title. His tactical knowledge of the game in UK is far better than any other european managers. If he's appointed, you can be assured of a certain degree of success. Ok it might be a challenge to win the league (as some people deem as a failure), but as least we know we will mount a respectable challenge. This I'm sure of rafa's ability.
If we get someone else in, it's no guaranteed success and if he has no EPL experience, it can go awry as we've seen with AVB - the hottest manager last summer. The chance of this new manager succeeding is probably going to be less than a high-probability bet in Rafa.
That's the reason why I want rafa back. Because he knows the club, he loves the club and he knows the league enough to know what it will take to make a challenge for it. Too stubborn, too arrogant, too petulant, too unwilling to learn, too riddled with past failure. FFS - can we just move forward???? Move forward with who? Right now I can only think of a few managers who whom I would have preferred to rafa... Maureen, Hiddink and maybe Van Gaal. But will these guys come? No chance. So who? O'Neill? Hoddle? Klinsmann? FFS name me a realistic manager whom you think is a better bet than rafa.
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Please can we stop with these embarrasing Benitez pleas, he's a failed manager and bringing him back would be a massive backward step, if he is so good why has he been out of work so long and why are there no big Clubs rushing to give him an opportunity, people need to read between the lines here. We have already had our fingers badly burnt once with the appointment of Dalglish so lets not make the same mistake twice, we dont want the past, we want an exciting future with a new manager who can provide that whoever he may be.
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I can't really see why people want O'Neill. We need to look to someone young and hungry the likes of Lambert.
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Good read , even if the writers geography is a bit questionable. I've watched Henry turn around a stagnant baseball club over several seasons, and I've seen the genuine joy that he got from winning the World Series (I know, stupid name) and especially beating the NY Yankees to do so. My point is Henry is in it for the long term, but at the end of the day he's an investor and expects a return, I think we'll see some changes over the summer In order for him to get a return, Liverpool needs to be successful.
Back to Back World Champions baby!
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Interesting read!
Henry replaced Red Sox' former manager with a 61 year old one who hadn't been in the business for a decade.
Ring any bells?
I think it's time FSG show what they're made of.
We desperately need some good news regarding the new arena, and we equally desperately need some replcements for all the flops brought in recently.
The clear out of last year was good, but some new dross have moved in at Melwood. Get rid ASAP!
Manager? We need a top notch one, and I'm not talking about O'Neill now. Capello, Lööw, Mourinho or something like that is what we need. Just make it happen, FSG!
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