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Good read.
I look back at Rafa's last season with those horrible owners, with bad results and when Kenny and the new owners arrived everything turned positive however I am ashamed that we are some what back to where we were 2 years ago. We are looking at the prospect of brining in a new manager, looking at the prospect of signing even more players even after the 100m spent last summer, it just kills me to bits thinking about this especially while looking at other clubs who are progressing nicely and at a steady pace (Newcastle, Tottenham, etc). I will admit that I love Rafa and I enjoyed his reign as a fan with all those great memories, the wonderful signings etc but are we letting sentiment cloud our judgement once again by letting a former manager walk in again? I really am not sure, I just hope we land the right candidate whether we keep Kenny, sign Rafa or sign any other manager. The way I look at it is that Rafa should be snapped up very quickly - today if possible. That's not a sentimental thing, it is based on proven success in europe and the closest we have to come to winning the league for a very long time. When we came 2nd in the prem he spent a fair bit of money but nothing like the levels that kenny has spent to get us to 7th. Surely it's beyond reasonable doubt that Rafa could get us close to the title if he was afforded more cash and a supportive board of directors? After all, his failings were down to poor purchases brought about by a restrictive board. It began to go down hill for Mr Benitez when Hicks & Gillet started to interfere and when they wouldn't sanction certain purchases. Is it not logical that if you remove the lack of money and H&G then you are left with the Rafa before it all went wrong? the Rafa that made us premier league runners and champions of europe? If we got Rafa today we'd be in the top 4 next season and premier league champions within 3 years
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The question tho is will Henry sanction another 100m to continue rebuilding the squad if Rafa came in? I really can't see it.
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The question tho is will Henry sanction another 100m to continue rebuilding the squad if Rafa came in? I really can't see it. Sadly nor can I Snake. Which leaves Mourhino +£100 million and guaranteed success, a young manager and a very long rebuilding period which as I've said before, I don't think most LFC fans will tolerate even if they start out with those intentions. Or, they eventually sell; licking their wounds after it not being as easy as envisaged. I wouldn't rule it out in the medium term. Maybe they are starting to see, it ain't no baseball!!
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The question tho is will Henry sanction another 100m to continue rebuilding the squad if Rafa came in? I really can't see it. Sadly nor can I Snake. Which leaves Mourhino +£100 million and guaranteed success, a young manager and a very long rebuilding period which as I've said before, I don't think most LFC fans will tolerate even if they start out with those intentions. Or, they eventually sell; licking their wounds after it not being as easy as envisaged. I wouldn't rule it out in the medium term. Maybe they are starting to see, it ain't no baseball!! I think many would love Mourinho, even those who hate him will swallow their pride and accept him because he is a winner but I really cannot see how Mourinho will come here at the moment. He is arguably in the second best team in the world at the moment and he does not usually leave his club without winning a major honour. He is on course to win the league but will he leave just after winning 1 honour? Also if he does leave at the end of the season, there may be more attractive clubs than us (united, City, even Arsenal). I really can't see it happening this coming season, may be in the future.
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Good read.
I look back at Rafa's last season with those horrible owners, with bad results and when Kenny and the new owners arrived everything turned positive however I am ashamed that we are some what back to where we were 2 years ago. We are looking at the prospect of brining in a new manager, looking at the prospect of signing even more players even after the 100m spent last summer, it just kills me to bits thinking about this especially while looking at other clubs who are progressing nicely and at a steady pace (Newcastle, Tottenham, etc). I will admit that I love Rafa and I enjoyed his reign as a fan with all those great memories, the wonderful signings etc but are we letting sentiment cloud our judgement once again by letting a former manager walk in again? I really am not sure, I just hope we land the right candidate whether we keep Kenny, sign Rafa or sign any other manager. The way I look at it is that Rafa should be snapped up very quickly - today if possible. That's not a sentimental thing, it is based on proven success in europe and the closest we have to come to winning the league for a very long time. When we came 2nd in the prem he spent a fair bit of money but nothing like the levels that kenny has spent to get us to 7th. Surely it's beyond reasonable doubt that Rafa could get us close to the title if he was afforded more cash and a supportive board of directors? After all, his failings were down to poor purchases brought about by a restrictive board. It began to go down hill for Mr Benitez when Hicks & Gillet started to interfere and when they wouldn't sanction certain purchases. Is it not logical that if you remove the lack of money and H&G then you are left with the Rafa before it all went wrong? the Rafa that made us premier league runners and champions of europe? If we got Rafa today we'd be in the top 4 next season and premier league champions within 3 years Can't understand why someone against Kenny would want to take even more backward steps. The year we came second, we lost the race mostly in the first half of the season where Rafa was too cautious and we had too many draws. We made a race of it when we threw caution to the wind and became more un-Rafa like. The logic for taking Rafa back just doesn't square with the logic for letting Kenny go. Will Chelsea take back the manager who got them to the CL final... will Blackburn take back Dalglish for their prem win? Let's move forward.... new ideas and fresh impetus. Rafa will never win the premier league. 2nd place is 2nd place, regardless of how you want to belittle it. That season we won 25, Drew 11 and Lost 2. If our 2 defeats had been 1 win and 1 more draw we'd have won the league. How would our 12 draws have sat with you then? We know how much you love kenny but you are trying too hard to discredit Rafa.....It's almost like some kind of revenge against those that see him as being better than kenny. Unfortunately on this ocassion you're not making valid arguments. I remember a while ago you having a pop at me for stating my opinions as facts. Look above...."Rafa will never win the premier league". At the time you denied being a hypocrite.....
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The question tho is will Henry sanction another 100m to continue rebuilding the squad if Rafa came in? I really can't see it. Sadly nor can I Snake. Which leaves Mourhino +£100 million and guaranteed success, a young manager and a very long rebuilding period which as I've said before, I don't think most LFC fans will tolerate even if they start out with those intentions. Or, they eventually sell; licking their wounds after it not being as easy as envisaged. I wouldn't rule it out in the medium term. Maybe they are starting to see, it ain't no baseball!! I think many would love Mourinho, even those who hate him will swallow their pride and accept him because he is a winner but I really cannot see how Mourinho will come here at the moment. He is arguably in the second best team in the world at the moment and he does not usually leave his club without winning a major honour. He is on course to win the league but will he leave just after winning 1 honour? Also if he does leave at the end of the season, there may be more attractive clubs than us (united, City, even Arsenal). I really can't see it happening this coming season, may be in the future. I wouldn't rule it out. He has said he's fed up with spain and sees his home as being in the premier league.... City - are more than happy with mancini Utd - ferguson is going nowhere Arsenal - can't see them getting rid of wenger Spurs - if redknapp leaves it will be for the england team Chelsea - can't see him wanting to work with abramovich again or vice versa Newcastle - not big enough for him Liverpool - wealthy-ish club, poor season/lots to prove, manager on the ropes...... If he comes back to the England I can't see him going to any club other than Liverpool. Although I respect Rafa as a person and would love to see him back at LFC, Mourinho would be top of my shopping list because he is just that little more successful.
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Never thought I say this, but if Kenny does move on, I would welcome the Special One..., petulant brat though he is.
AVB - Oh Lord, no..!
Benitez - I was glad to see the back of him and would not expect a return.
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The question tho is will Henry sanction another 100m to continue rebuilding the squad if Rafa came in? I really can't see it. Sadly nor can I Snake. Which leaves Mourhino +£100 million and guaranteed success, a young manager and a very long rebuilding period which as I've said before, I don't think most LFC fans will tolerate even if they start out with those intentions. Or, they eventually sell; licking their wounds after it not being as easy as envisaged. I wouldn't rule it out in the medium term. Maybe they are starting to see, it ain't no baseball!! I think many would love Mourinho, even those who hate him will swallow their pride and accept him because he is a winner but I really cannot see how Mourinho will come here at the moment. He is arguably in the second best team in the world at the moment and he does not usually leave his club without winning a major honour. He is on course to win the league but will he leave just after winning 1 honour? Also if he does leave at the end of the season, there may be more attractive clubs than us (united, City, even Arsenal). I really can't see it happening this coming season, may be in the future. I wouldn't rule it out. He has said he's fed up with spain and sees his home as being in the premier league.... City - are more than happy with mancini Utd - ferguson is going nowhere Arsenal - can't see them getting rid of wenger Spurs - if redknapp leaves it will be for the england team Chelsea - can't see him wanting to work with abramovich again or vice versa Newcastle - not big enough for him Liverpool - wealthy-ish club, poor season/lots to prove, manager on the ropes...... If he comes back to the England I can't see him going to any club other than Liverpool. Although I respect Rafa as a person and would love to see him back at LFC, Mourinho would be top of my shopping list because he is just that little more successful. I think if City don't win the league (looking likely) then Mancini will be sacked opening the door for City. He will go to city with unlimited funds but you do have a point if all the clubs keep their managers and he does leave he may come but again I don't see it myself.
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I don't think Mancini will be sacked as he is clearly making progress and their fans are happy. With the number of new players from different leagues, different nationalities, different languages, different cultures etc I would say man city are over achieveing this year - next year would be about right for them to be expected to win the league.
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So united to land 20th with a mediocre team while we sit on our bums. Its looking like that at the moment. Not good at all.
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