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problem dunk is benitez, hodgson and dalglish didnt play him and juve didnt want him so ask yourself why ? Injured under Rafa. Hodgson was told he had to move him out when he took over. He had no say in it. It was a financial decision. Dalglish, finances again. None of it was to do with form. not injured all the time dunk when he was fit he didnt play He never shook off his injury and fitness problems until Rafa had left. He was raring to go under Roy but was dumped because of the money. Roy never took a single look at him because he was made aware during the job interview process who would be moved out. ask your self then dunk why was he bought then for a lot of money and massive wages injured and a big history of injury , even recently injured at milan .
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problem dunk is benitez, hodgson and dalglish didnt play him and juve didnt want him so ask yourself why ? Injured under Rafa. Hodgson was told he had to move him out when he took over. He had no say in it. It was a financial decision. Dalglish, finances again. None of it was to do with form. not injured all the time dunk when he was fit he didnt play He never shook off his injury and fitness problems until Rafa had left. He was raring to go under Roy but was dumped because of the money. Roy never took a single look at him because he was made aware during the job interview process who would be moved out. and then we signed Meireles? Yeh, that went well.
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problem dunk is benitez, hodgson and dalglish didnt play him and juve didnt want him so ask yourself why ? Injured under Rafa. Hodgson was told he had to move him out when he took over. He had no say in it. It was a financial decision. Dalglish, finances again. None of it was to do with form. not injured all the time dunk when he was fit he didnt play Yes. Rafa didn't fancy him! He didn't fancy the player he spent £20million on while injured and who only this week he explained why he signed him and what the plan was, had he been given the proper backing? Too funny.
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and then we signed Meireles?
Yeh, that went well.
And why did he leave? Read my post a couple up 
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So Rafa wasn't just happy with Aquilani, he needed other players around him for it to work?
Alonso went, We flopped on Barry, Aquilani came in.
It still wasn't enough.
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oh well dunk we will agree to disagree on that mate .
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Oh yes, and Torres has hinted at the same reason "The fans don't know the story" "Promises weren't kept etc"
Players can play that face though can't they?
But if you know different.....
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The bit about Aquilani is spot on and it baffled me to bits that they loaned him out for two full seasons after paying 18 mil for him. He was NOT given a fair shake and he was by far the most promising player we had in the preseason. My thinking is that Dalglish thought Adam and Henderson would be a lot better than they are, thus making Aquilani expendable. There is no denying that this was a really awful decision and a complete lack of vision by Rafa, Hodgson and Dalglish concerning this player. All those saying he's too lightweight are just bleating the official media soundbite about Aquilani but it's not actually true. Judging on pure physicality they would have said the same about Modric, Silva, Nasri, Nani, and others of a small stature and build. On the contrary, all the top teams have one of those types of players - except us. That should tell you something.... Don't understand that at all - Rafa didn't loan him out, and he played him when he was fit. You may also know that Rafa planned to sign Jovetic in the same window, and planned to use both players, but someone took the money. Is that the lack of vision you are referring to? No.. it's all ifs, ands and buts with Rafa... it's all retrospective supposition. Yeah he didn't get his top target on occasion... but what manager doesn't? Whose to say who Evans missed out on... or Houllier, or even Dalglish last summer. No one on here knows what the 'short list' was... and who we didn't get. Plus, Rafa is saying anything he can to get hired at the moment. He's practically begging Abramovich... using phrases like "do they want to win the CL... I've won the CL." Now we get these stories about how hard-done by he was cropping up as Dalglish is in trouble. I'm not buying it. He brought in some great players... and a lot of tat. He lost a lot of great players because his man-management skill are nill. He's considered an arrogant spent force in much of Europe these days... and for good reason. He'd still be Liverpool manager if he had an ounce of humility and willingness to learn from his mistakes... but he can't help himself. Guess what? Kenny is getting crucified because we are a good cup team and poor in the league.... but that's all we were under Rafa... a good cup team! So why replace one with the other? Erm...? None of any of that has to do with Rafa and Aquilani. The Jovetic thing is not new, mate. The old rumour largely centred around having to deal with clubs that owed us money, hence Aquilani even being on the list, but that Parry signed Keane instead of Jovetic and therefore ran out of money to complete the midfield. You don't always get your man, but you generally try to get the guy at the top of the list, and Keane was never that high. As Dunk says, the dodge under Hodgson had everything to do with Hicks and Gillet not wanting to pay Roma, but I'm not convinced that was still true when FSG/Dalglish came in. Aquilani was our best player in pre-season by a mile, and it would have made a lot more sense to keep him than to sign anyone else for the same money (and in fact we then went out and spent more).
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ask your self then dunk why was he bought then for a lot of money and massive wages injured and a big history of injury , even recently injured at milan . I don't get your question at all? He had a bad injury at the time and it took him ages to shake it off. If you read my editorial I clearly said that I was finally starting get enthusiastic about Aquilani in pre-season as he was at last clear of injury. I also point out in the editorial the stats about his appearances this season compared to Gerrard and Lucas. It is a myth that he's injury prone. He went through a bad period but people latch on to this claim.
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Oh yes, and Torres has hinted at the same reason "The fans don't know the story" "Promises weren't kept etc"
Players can play that face though can't they?
But if you know different..... Yes I do know different as do most knowledgeable supporters. He was on a very low wage with a promise of an increase which wasn't given to him. To suggest he's telling porkies is just silly.
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