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Originally Posted By: flames
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Is there absolutely NO end to all these NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE threads ey? eek


fully agree growler, what on earth people are getting out of this i dont know. its like a competition.
what do you want people to post "all is great" dalglish and liverpool are brilliant ?

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Stan when he left in 1991 we were top of the league.
He had taken us to 3 League titles and an FA Cup which included a double.

Enter Mr. Souness: The start of our real decline.

I think such is your hatred of Dalglish that you are getting hysterical.

I think the general consensus on here is that he has to go but the club should allow him to leave with his dignity intact.

They owe him that much.

Some of the people on here should be ashamed of some of the stuff they have posted the last few days.

We all know he has to go and that he will go sooner or later so why the endless threads on the same topic.

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not at all fz, and in all fairness, stan is not the worst, i just happen to post it on his thread so sorry bout that stan, not singling you out. but its the same points being made by the same people over and over and over again. very little of it is constructive, very little offers any solutions, unless they are absolute ridiculous solutions, and craney mad a very good point about that on another thread, best post i read today.

dalglish must go! reina must go! downing must go! blah blah blah! this is what the baby and the bathwater saying is all about. faz ill be honest, in my opinion i think it is very naiive to think that just sacking and selling is the solution here. especially when the reality is we will only get some half baked manager because we WILL NOT get a top named manager at the moment. And as for Capello, Raffa, Ince, Brendan Rogers, to name a few. come on, get serious.


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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Stan when he left in 1991 we were top of the league.
He had taken us to 3 League titles and an FA Cup which included a double.

Enter Mr. Souness: The start of our real decline.

I think such is your hatred of Dalglish that you are getting hysterical.

I think the general consensus on here is that he has to go but the club should allow him to leave with his dignity intact.

They owe him that much.

Some of the people on here should be ashamed of some of the stuff they have posted the last few days.

We all know he has to go and that he will go sooner or later so why the endless threads on the same topic.



Shaggydog the trend (if you were around then) was downwards the history books don't show that but it happened I can assure you of that. So its established by all he has to go. Is that correct? My own view is he should resign at the end of this season. Which I think is fair to both parties and preserves Dalglish's reputation. But he must then leave the club for good for the sake of the new manager.

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Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
this is ridculous. KD worse manager in living memory? no chance.

He hasn't lived up to expectations - that's all. A failure which may, perhaps should depending on your opinion, cost him his job. But to have him top in a poll of worst LFC managers in living memory whilst Roy Hodgson is in the same is mind boggling.

Even Roy Hodgson wasn't totally to blame for his predicaments. He was just the wrong man at the wrong time for LFC. But there's no way KD is a bigger disaster than Roy - not even close.


If you ignore the facts, the figures, the spend and the results there is no way that daglish is worse than hodgson. no way at all...

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[Some of the people on here should be ashamed of some of the stuff they have posted the last few days.

We all know he has to go and that he will go sooner or later so why the endless threads on the same topic. [/quote]

Agreed. The forums getting really predictable and I don't know why this thread was started. Poor kenny's tried his best but it's getting more obvious he's not up to it, league cup or not. No need to villify him.
A 'Worst ever manager' thread is just pointless and sad to see here, especially after 3/4 of his first full season.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Stan when he left in 1991 we were top of the league.
He had taken us to 3 League titles and an FA Cup which included a double.

Enter Mr. Souness: The start of our real decline.

I think such is your hatred of Dalglish that you are getting hysterical.

I think the general consensus on here is that he has to go but the club should allow him to leave with his dignity intact.

They owe him that much.

Some of the people on here should be ashamed of some of the stuff they have posted the last few days.

We all know he has to go and that he will go sooner or later so why the endless threads on the same topic.


Yep.

If your gonna criticize, make sure its done properly and due. For instance, I want Kenny to stay, however he is coming across as a horrible man in interviews. I'd like for that to change, amongst a few other things he is capable of changing....like persisting with under-performing comfortable players.

I think some of you fail to realize that the players that ultimately failed Benitez, failed Hodgson and are now starting to fail Dalglish!

OK, he made some bad signings to add to that, but a lot of the players are the same, and they are failing themselves, failing us and failing the manager, badly.

Yes, people will blame the manager first, but in this case, I honestly, 100% firmly believe, the players are at fault here and have been for a few weeks now.

No manager (any that the minority have mentioned) can come in, and put this all right. After all, we expected Kenny to do that when he returned, didn't we?

Before you know it, this same minority will be on the back of the new manager in no time, wanting that one out just as bad. It's all pathetic!

Let's not forget either, just how many people wanted Kenny back, when FSG brought him in, getting in the good books with some of the fans to, at the same time.

The only thing common over the last 3 manager, (including Daglish) are the players, and considering we haven't moved on an awful lot, the players should be under the main microscope, not Kenny.

The over-paid players either book they're ideas up, or your out. Simple.

Kenny should be given the chance to change that, at the very least.

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Originally Posted By: flames
not at all fz, and in all fairness, stan is not the worst, i just happen to post it on his thread so sorry bout that stan, not singling you out. but its the same points being made by the same people over and over and over again. very little of it is constructive, very little offers any solutions, unless they are absolute ridiculous solutions, and craney mad a very good point about that on another thread, best post i read today.

dalglish must go! reina must go! downing must go! blah blah blah! this is what the baby and the bathwater saying is all about. faz ill be honest, in my opinion i think it is very naiive to think that just sacking and selling is the solution here. especially when the reality is we will only get some half baked manager because we WILL NOT get a top named manager at the moment. And as for Capello, Raffa, Ince, Brendan Rogers, to name a few. come on, get serious.


Flames this is no 1 topic for Liverpool fans right across the world now so its bound to reflect so on the forum. I don't propose a sack now and work out what to do next option. But Dalglish must GO but in a managed situation if that means we need to keep him on a big longer so be it. No more fouls ups with the next manager because we simply cannot afford more disruption.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Stan when he left in 1991 we were top of the league.
He had taken us to 3 League titles and an FA Cup which included a double.

Enter Mr. Souness: The start of our real decline.

I think such is your hatred of Dalglish that you are getting hysterical.

I think the general consensus on here is that he has to go but the club should allow him to leave with his dignity intact.

They owe him that much.

Some of the people on here should be ashamed of some of the stuff they have posted the last few days.

We all know he has to go and that he will go sooner or later so why the endless threads on the same topic.



Shaggydog the trend (if you were around then) was downwards the history books don't show that but it happened I can assure you of that. So its established by all he has to go. Is that correct? My own view is he should resign at the end of this season. Which I think is fair to both parties and preserves Dalglish's reputation. But he must then leave the club for good for the sake of the new manager.


I guess that he does deserve his dignity even though I personally see a big advantage in him going now so as to give a new manager sufficient time to prepare for next season.
He hasn't disgraced the club (not intentionally anyway) - it's just that he simply isn't anywhere near good enough.
I mentioned in an earlier thread that he should stay on in some sort of 'ambassador' type role but I've changed my mind on that. If he is as awkward, ignorant, dismissive and unapproachable as he comes across in his interviews then it's best he just retires and stays in our minds a legendary player of the past and a man we can be proud of due to his charity work and support for Hillsborough.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: TheMightyLFC
this is ridculous. KD worse manager in living memory? no chance.

He hasn't lived up to expectations - that's all. A failure which may, perhaps should depending on your opinion, cost him his job. But to have him top in a poll of worst LFC managers in living memory whilst Roy Hodgson is in the same is mind boggling.

Even Roy Hodgson wasn't totally to blame for his predicaments. He was just the wrong man at the wrong time for LFC. But there's no way KD is a bigger disaster than Roy - not even close.


If you ignore the facts, the figures, the spend and the results there is no way that daglish is worse than hodgson. no way at all...


It's just not a debate that can have a conclusive answer? don't you see that?

one gu has had two stints at the job totalling about 6 years or so... the other guy only had six months. One guy has one quite a few trophies... the other guy none. It could be argued that Roy wasn't given enough time to do the job but others would say that it was a blessing that he wasn't given more time to do some more damage.

so it's not a question of not seeing things... it's just opinion... there never can be one answer because it's subjective. Hence a totally pointless debate... the only purpose it serves is killing time for those of us who are sad enough to have nothing better to do on a beautiful, sunny Sunday afternoon. smile


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