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stan you are going to get hammered for this one smile

not a big fan of dalglish's reign this time around.

David moores I was a big fan of, but he sold the club to the wrong guys and this set us back big time.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
For the record my view is this. Dalglish took over in 1985 when Liverpool was one of the best clubs in the world. The most sucessful british club ever a title winning machine and feared all over europe. When he left in 1991 they were barely a top 6 side and Manchester United took their place. Thanks Kenny. Now in 2011 / 2 the club is in last chance saloon trying to catch up with our rivals with an outdated stadium. We desperately need champions league revenue at this point in our history. The owners give Kenny £113m to kick start the club which is used to buy average players with a market value of about £45m. These players don't deliver either and the team is in freefall. Thanks Kenny. He was a great player but no man has done more to damage Liverpool fottball club except arguably David Moores,


Good god!

Come on guys, think about it at least!

No man???? Deary me! crazy

What about Roy Evans, or Hodgson? Or H&G? Or Michael Owen? Or Fernando Torres?

NOPE KENNY TRUMPS THE LOT! ON PAR WITH DAVID MOORES!

Oh. My. Word.

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I stand by what I said possibly David Moores was the worst but after him Kenny for destroying the infrastruture and end our reign at the top in the early nineties and what he has done today speaks for itself.

If he allowed to stay beyong this season there is no limit to the damage that may be bestowed upon us.


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exactly the reason that he should go or be made to go.

I not fussed either way


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I suppose he damaged the club for all that he done regarding Hillsborough to?....and still does?

You seriously need to think about it mate, "NO MAN has EVER done more to DAMAGE Liverpool Football Club except arguably David Moores."

Personally I find that statement totally disgusting.

Especially when we've seen what players, managers and owners have done to us in the past.

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lets not go down that road, I think SP means purely from a on the field point of view

Am I right SP


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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
lets not go down that road, I think SP means purely from a on the field point of view

Am I right SP


Yes full of respect for Hillsborough and I was there on that day and although not hurt was affected. But whoever the manager was on that day I am sure they would have acted in the right way,. But yes I am talking purely in regard to his performance as manager nothing else.


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Dunno about the "same way"

Your saying he is doing more damage to the club, except for arguably David Moores. THEREFORE, you aren't just looking at on the pitch are you?

Your comparing him to someone who used to be of it, why not say.....he is doing more damage to our club than, lets say, Hodgson.

Meaning, you are focusing on the damage being done ON the pitch.

Even then, I fail to believe Kenny is doing more damage than, Hodgson or Benitez or Houllier or Roy Evans for instance....because in my opinion we HAVEN'T moved on all that much, under all of them, it's been more of the same every time, it always turns stale eventually.

That's why we need to stop with this mentality of bringing in a manager who is capable of "bits and bobs" yet fails in other areas of management.

It has to be Mr Perfect this time, or else the situation we're seeing now.....will manifest again.

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Whether someone has done more damage than another is irrelevant.
In any case, it's never about one person - so many other factors come into play, many of them subjective.

The point is, everyone - Dalglish, Evans, Souness even Roy Hodgson tried their best. Whilst they may have failed to achieve what we all yearn for, we thank them for their efforts even though we may disagree with how they things.

e.g. I share some of Stan's observations re: KD. The old boot room method was to turn the team over gradually over a period of years. Each season on or two new faces would come in, often unknown, they earn they way into the first team and gradually you'd have a well known first team regular. Clemence, Hughes, Whelan, Nicol, Alan Kennedy. The bid signings were the exception.

Then from around the 87/88 season i believe bringing established players in became our primary method of building a team. Beardsley, Barnes, Houghton, Aldridge etc. All people who had made their names elsewhere. It paid dividends in the short term but, in my opinion, that approach was the beginning of the decline.

However, even though one may hold an opinion that Kenny is not the best or the right man for the job, (though I think for now he deserves to be stay 'till the end of the season at least) - I don't think it's right to hate the man or make out that he's the worst ever etc.


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Originally Posted By: Growler
Is there absolutely NO end to all these NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE threads ey? eek


fully agree growler, what on earth people are getting out of this i dont know. its like a competition.


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