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#203713 25/03/12 01:33 AM
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My thoughts for what they are worth....Ok some decisions that KK has made throughout the season have baffled me a little, but I do not think he is as bad as people make out. The way I see it just now is, if a new manager came in, would he be able to turn the squad we have at the minute into a title contending side? Not a chance if you ask me..way to many passengers! Ok we could improve if we get a manager who is tactically better at the helm but at the same time a lot of money is still required to be spent in order to turn an average squad into a TITLE WINNING TEAM! Thoughts?

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Their is not enuff space on here for me to xplain
How I wud go.abt making lfc a force in world football again on the pitch

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The new manager does not need to reinvent this squad. He needs to tweak it - a change here or there.

I think we also need to define "passenger" first. The only real passenger we have is Charlie Adam - ymmv.

We have any number of players who are "squad level" players, which I think of as players who will be on the bench until someone gets hurt or who will play cup games against trash opposition, eg Spearing, Coates, Kuyt, Bellamy, Henderson, Shelvey, Flanagan, Carragher, Maxi, Doni. They may be called on if we need to adjust our system, and you'll note they are either young or old (a 25 year old on the bench is probably a passenger unless your squad is very deep).

The players we'd pick every time at LFC are:
Reina, Johnson, Kelly, Agger, Skrtel, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard, Downing, Suarez.
Obviously that leaves one of the fullbacks to act as cover, but having 3 quality players that can rotate is to our benefit, especially since Johnson plays well on the left.

That leaves one: Carroll. If a manager is to be successful at LFC he needs to work out what to do with this guy. Suarez needs help up front as he's not the kind of player who can lead the line by himself the way Torres did. He needs someone to play off him, to allow him to be the creative outlet. That player could be Carroll, but it often seems he's just not fast enough to react to what Suarez is doing - as opposed to, say, Gerrard who tends to pop up in the right places or provide the right balls. Gut feel? Sell Carroll and move all in for a poacher (perhaps Moussa Sow, who is in the wrong league to demand high wages and CL qualification). Then go out and find a backup striker, or push someone like Morgan up to the first XI.

That leaves RM - maybe Hoilett from Blackburn. But I'd be wary of players just breaking through at clubs at the wrong end of the table.

The next primary weakness is that with Agger injury-prone and Carra past it, we have a shortage at CB. We need another squad player here, because Coates seems to be making decent progress. No idea who - I was all for signing Cahill, but that ship has sailed.

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Hoilett Gerrard Lucas Downing
Sow Suarez

I honestly think that 4-4-2 suits our present squad best, as we just don't have the midfielders or striker to pull off 4-5-1/4-3-3 variants successfully over a period of time. Depth at CB could allow us to switch to 3-5-2, though that would only be for emergencies and against sides that come to park the bus. I think we need to treat other clubs with less rather than more respect - Kenny's defensive approach has cost us a lot of points this season, even though it has allowed us the chance to learn how to pass and move.

I'm not sure this side as listed can win the title. But I do think it can get into the top 4 (with a fight), and from there anything becomes possible.

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It's not xbox, have u heard that b4 .... pay bk is a xxxx!!

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I firmly believe we have the right man in charge, the team is not average and just requires some minor tweaking over the next two seasons to put us in prime position to once again claim a premier league title

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When I say passengers...im talking about players that seem to be on completely different wavelengths! You touched on it yourself with Carroll and Suarez, Carroll doesn't seem to be on the same wavelength at all! I am with you on selling him, I don't think he suits the way we play, we seem to concentrate to much on getting wide and putting balls in....even though we are not very good at it! I would also like to see an old fashion poacher playing in front of Suarez.

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The scarry thing is if we get another manager it most likely will even get worse.


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Originally Posted By: Kop4Life
I firmly believe we have the right man in charge, the team is not average and just requires some minor tweaking over the next two seasons to put us in prime position to once again claim a premier league title


What tweaking is that then, we need a striker (maybe two if Suarez leaves), someone on the left & right, we also need someone who can step up and replace Gerrard as Henderson, Adam & Spearing are not good enough.

Then you have the problem of whether Lucas will be the same player after his injury, we also need someone as a suitable back up for him.

Currently we have Lucas who is good enough, Shelvey who looks good and Gerrard who is not getting younger.

That's a lot of tweaking and why do you think Kenny is the right man, do you think his tactics have been good then? Being two up against QPR who are there for the taking we resort to three at the back and lose 3-2 in 13 minutes!!!

Then there's the inept display against Bolton and todays display, we didn't even deserve to win the Carling Cup that is how bad we have been lately.

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Originally Posted By: Kop4Life
I firmly believe we have the right man in charge, the team is not average and just requires some minor tweaking over the next two seasons to put us in prime position to once again claim a premier league title


You maybe right, but clearly the boss is struggling to get them playing at their best.

I honestly wouldn't like to make this call in the summer. The amount of balls in the air here are incredible. I'd like to give Kenny another season, but cut the spending drastically. Let him and Commo go and find the quality at bargain money like most other managers have to and try and salvage the apparent spending disaster they are both equally responsible for.

On the other hand, I can see Suarez and Reina both wanting reassurances or they will both wish to leave. Reina has had a very poor season but most goalkeepers have one. This is surely his.

We may limp to the end of the season, but how many players will have lost faith in the manager by then?

I think the owners are praying for an FA Cup victory so the club ends on a high, helps LFC retain it's credibility for potential transfer targets and Kenny steps down saving some of his reputation; with them not having to make a very difficult decision.

Whatever happens from here it's turned into a sorry state all round.


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