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#202498 22/03/12 09:48 AM
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thundyr, that Adam-Carroll does not make sense I mean we were winning deep into the 70 mins mark so I don't see how bringing Adam back was our downfall in the game in fact he left the game before they even scored their first goal. If anything, our defence is to blame for this horror 15 minutes.


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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
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thundyr, that Adam-Carroll does not make sense I mean we were winning deep into the 70 mins mark so I don't see how bringing Adam back was our downfall in the game in fact he left the game before they even scored their first goal. If anything, our defence is to blame for this horror 15 minutes.


Impossible to say for sure. Had Carroll started and Adam not, we could have been 6-0 up. Unlikely, but you get my point. All we know is that we lost with the team put out, and more recently we'd been doing better with Carroll and Suarez up front, and Adam not in the team. It was a strange decision to revert back to 4-5-1 which has failed us for an entire season.


That's fair enough I suppose but I can't blame just one player but may be our system wasn't right as you mentioned in the first place meaning Adam would not have started but again a 2-0 lead in the 77min should not be troubled.


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It's more about the formation, Snakeye. We've struggled for results playing 4-5-1. Neither Suarez nor Carroll are cut out to play up front on their own - how much more evidence of this did we really need? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Adam has been shocking all season, somehow managing to get worse, and we "fix" a winning 4-4-2 by changing our formation to fit him in? Why would you do that? All I can think of was Kenny said, "This is your last chance, buddy." Hooking him for Henderson should have been the final nail in his coffin. Adam can't have helped anyway, since we didn't score while he was on the pitch.

Seemed like a typical Liverpool game this season. Lots of pressure and hard work for too little reward, and end up with fewer than 3 points. I'm not saying Adam was central to the loss, but the decision-making for this game was poor. Liverpool have shown no ability to defend a lead at any stage of this season, yet we let QPR run at us! How was Kelly injured, for eg? A run-on from the knock he picked up against Stoke? If so, that's terrible management.

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We started that game playing the most beautifully fluid football I have seen in a long while, and I really thought that not even our lack of having a decent striker was going to prevent a rout.

We do tend to try to park the bus when we take a two goal lead, (which we do very badly,) but we continued to play expansive football and I saw no negative play from where I was sitting.

It would, however, be rather nice to have someone get onto one of the very many corners we won, and I was surprised to see Carroll on the bench.

We have no chance whatsoever of finishing in the top four, or of getting relegated, so I echo the views above in calling for our friendly manager to experiment widely with any promising players from the reserves, who might be considered for the first team next year. This is even more valid after the injuries to Kelly and Adam (who hasn't played well since Blackpool)...

I'll probably get shot for this, but: I would also like Kenny to either improve his attitude and personality in post match interviews, or leave them to Steve Clark. His grumpy, mumbling sarcasm is damaging to our reputation, an it's terrible to see such a joyous striker turned into a permanent scowl.

PS I'm not a Man U or Chelsea supporter, I swear! :-)

I have, however, supported the club for long enough to be objective.


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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
I think our fans need to stay calm because quite honestly this game against QPR did not mean anything, because Arsenal on 4th just keep winning and even if we had won we would be still 10 points behind which is basically a zero chance of qualifying for the champions league. I said this in another thread but our season finished with that loss against Arsenal. Had we won that and also taking the win against everton on board we would be only 1-2 points behind but they won and they went 10 points ahead and basically ended our season. Our season hangs on an FA Cup final if we beat our opponents in the semis. I can't see us gaining a lot of points in the league any more and we may finisher lower than 7th so lets just focus on the cup and hopefully win that and if we do then I think we can say its a successful season. Shoot away if you will.


What a an absolute kop out (excuse the pun). So what we can't get 4th, EVERY SINGLE LEAGUE GAME MATTERS. It's not a case of oh we can't get 4th so who cares where we finish lets concentrate on another cup the big teams didn't care about. Benitez got sacked for finishing 7th, and kenny is in danger of finishing lower behind swansea and newcastle who have spent nothing compared to over 100 million! Qpr game meant a lot! every game means a lot! every single one is a chance for kenny to show that the team isn't rubbish and the players he bought aren't a demonstration of the worst transfer policy in the league. And he's failing every time!

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I would consider it a disgrace to the fans alone who turn up if the team didn't take it seriously

We should go to win every game, we are not a wolves who used to pick which games they could win and field less teams against the big teams.

We are Liverpool and any player putting on that shirt should go out and give his best no matter what.

Plus i don't care if we win the fa cup if we finish like 8th or lower the majority of the season has been a failure.

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I thought that was a very unprofessional final 13 minutes by the players. I don't think Dalglish did anything to concede those three goals... I think Skrtel and Enrique did.
He took Suarez of who was occupying the defenders and stopping the from pushing on and keeping the ball up the right end of the field. But noooooooooo let's bring Carroll on who as much use as tit's on a fish! who couldn't hold his own water never mind hold up a football giving QPR more ball to play with allowing their defenders to push on!! Dlaglish made the call to change things about he brought Carroll on nobody else!! mad


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cjkent #202712 23/03/12 01:32 AM
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I would consider it a disgrace to the fans alone who turn up if the team didn't take it seriously

We should go to win every game, we are not a wolves who used to pick which games they could win and field less teams against the big teams.

We are Liverpool and any player putting on that shirt should go out and give his best no matter what.

Plus i don't care if we win the fa cup if we finish like 8th or lower the majority of the season has been a failure.


+1 apart from the last paragraph.

Those tits need to show 100% commitment from this coming weekend for every singly game for the rest of the season, to help erase the most bitter of tastes I and many others have had to endure after last nights pantomime.
I still feel very angry about last nights 13 most gruesome minutes from HELL of some of the worst football imaginable.

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