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Don't think anyone wants Kenny in the job for the next 20 years,some are willing to give him a bit longer than 1 season though.
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Can we attract anyone better?
I believe that appointing a better manager is much more important than sacking the previous.
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Two windows as full time manager. Doubt he had much input when he was interim. Considering we didn't sign anyone in January - he's really only had one active window. The 'inactive' window that you speak of is the window where we most definitely should have been very active. His decision not to buy is part of the reason we're only 7th in the league, because we were crying out for a goal scorer. Not one of your better comments KP.
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There is a problem with all of this comparison between Dalglish and all of these managers who started poorly and went on to do well. None of them were at clubs that had won every trophy on offer outside the league title within the ten years prior to them signing on.
Shankly was a fantastic manager, no question, but there was no pressure on him to win the first division title given that he started managing the club in the second division. I'm pretty sure he managed more than 8 points from any collection of 11 consecutive league games no matter how dire his squad, anyway, and the same goes for Fergusson, Clough et al. But you can't compare Liverpool's 2012 expectations with those of Derby 30 years ago! It's not like Dalglish came to the rescue when the club was bottom of the table like 'Arry did for Spurs. 12th is bad, but it's not 20th.
All Dalglish had to do was improve over any 2 of the top 5 clubs, 3 of which were in decline at the start of the season. He had carte blanche to change what needed changing. Not only has he failed, he doesn't seem to have come to understand his squad, and we will continue to sit in that uncomfortable position of being outside the top 6 and barely holding onto the top 10 until he either gets it right or the players lose what little confidence they have left.
Top 6, a cup, and a cup semi-final should be enough, because that's improvement over last season and the season before. But finishing below 7th will make it hard to see how we've improved anywhere despite getting rid of all the players everyone knew were bad.
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I agree mate because for me the cup runs are hiding the massive cracks we have in the squad.
Personally i don't trust the current setup to get the right players in in the summer as the signings haven't set the world alight this season.
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I don't want Dalgish to be sacked, however this business about us "owing him" another season is quiet puzzling,he did a good job last year, however like thundyr has pointed out It was not that amazing of a feat to make someone immune to critism and potential replacement.And why are we comparing what Pasily or Clough did to Dalgish? I'm sure they weren't given a buckload of cash, if they we're something must of went right in the transfer's.
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Not saying we should sack, but AC INTER REAL BARCA JUVE B MUNICH all sack managers on the back of a poor seasonS and all these clubs win more titles than lfc in the last 20 yrs, Can't keep bringing the fergie example up he is just a freak
I've noticed this for years and it is valid. Look at where Juve were a few seasons ago and compare with now.
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I think its all about progress with a team and what is achievable
Apart from the cups runs i say league performance has gone backwards and we look worse then we did last season. Add to the fact we have better players according to our management team this clearly isn't good enough.
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Dalglish has bought "British" players and they ain't worth the good money the american forked out for them. 20 million on Downing would have bought a decent winger from abroad. 35 million panic buy on Carroll would have bought a majority of the best forwards in the world.Jordan Henderson 18 million could have bought a fantastic winger with electric pace for that.Charlie Adams i'd give him back to Blackpool, he was a big fish in a little pond, now he is a little fish in an enormous pond.Enrique is the only one worth anything, as long as he don't make anymore mistakes like yesterday against QPR.
Dalglish has made big errors in transfer dealings,plus there are some players that are over the hill and can't be kept just for sentimentality, Kuyt , Maxi , Carra , Aurelio,Glen Johnson.We cant reach fourth now so blood the kids for the rest of the season , Sterling, Suso, Coady,and Morgan to name a few.Something has to be done to sort this unpredictability out.
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I read the article and there seems to be a an article a day coming out all saying the same thing we need to be patient rome was not built in a day. Rome indeed was not built in a day but they built it right. And there is the nub is Dalglish building anything at Liverpool? In terms of the squad I don't think so back to broken record the signings have been awaful. Do I believe Carroll will be a world class striker or henderson the a midlfielder liverpool will build their team around for the next 10 years, no. DOES ANYBODY ELSE ? seriously ?? yet thats £55m in the bin. And let ne ask this if everything is going to plan why are all these articles coming out defending dalglish from selected journalists? why ? whats going on here ? I suspect the board (and Dalglish) know the investment was wasted, its not delivered and the league position is unacceptable. Off field there have been some unsavoury incidents that were not handled well. All this is bad stuff and it is indicatig Dalglish is under great pressure I really would not be surprised if he quits end of this season he has done it twice before. Referring to which clubs Stan?
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
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