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All good points - and I agree that the owners actually think we are making progress, although that may change if we lose a few more games.

The Kenny-out crowd makes the following suppositions:

1. KD is incapable in the transfer market and will never buy good players.

This is actually a bit of a leap. Yes, the majority of his new signings have been disappointing but the only one looking like an absolute bust is Adam. Hendo, Downing, Carroll, Coates could all be said to be works in progress. Enrique and Bellamy have been accorded as successful buys. Kenny bought some duds the first time round... but then found some gems too. If Kenny is honest he'll realise that his buy British policy is flawed and will not continue it. Remember that Enrique, Coates, and one or two of the academy buys (along with Suarez before he came in) were foreign imports. He tried to give us a British spine a la the great team of the 80s and it has only not worked because those players aren't performing.

2. None of Kenny's new signings will come good and will be offloaded for a loss.

Again, not sure if this is true. Downing does brilliantly on the left but his final ball and decision making let him down. But he certainly does some good things prior to that final ball. Carroll is an enigma and I just don't see the confident Carroll of his Newcastle days when he'd knock down 8 defenders to nut the ball in the net. We've seen his lethal left foot a couple of times but I don't think we've learned how to play to his strengths. Hendo, most of us agree, could come good in time. Both he and Carroll are still very young. The most frustrating player is Adam, who is a pale shell of the player he was at Blackpool last season. I would argue that he and Gerrard play the same position and neither get forward enough these days. But to say none of these players will ever make it is a bit harsh. No one seems to remember how we all slagged off Lucas for months on end... and Skrtel.

3, Kenny is a dinosaur.

This is perhaps the most ludicrous proposition. He's hardly been away from the game, has held quite a few posts after his last management stint and isn't that old. He won the premier league with the unfashionable Blackburn - and might have done better at Newcastle if they'd been a bit more patient. I just wouldn't put the league disappointment this season down to being out-dated or antiquated. His 'pass and move' philosophy is current with a lot of good European teams... and there has been some good team interplay in the middle third of the park this season. His team is also more positive and attack minded than what we saw from Hodgson and the latter Rafa era. It's not the philosophy that's lacking... it's the lack of players to fit the system. Pass and move requires quick-thinking, mobile players with good touch. We have too many slow players that have poor touch. This is why Adam is struggling... why Downing takes the wrong final ball option... and why Suarez is increasingly ineffective. Players like Adam and Kuyt are too slow in transition and don't possess the ball-control necessary for such a system. Carroll, Adam, and Spearing are mentally not as fast as Suarez so a lot the latter's good instinctive play breaks down. We don't have enough players with instinct... like Silva, Modric, etc... players with that sixth sense of what to do with the ball. Our players are all too methodical and laboured. This system could work well with players who possess more speed and playmaking ability, which might only be two or three signings in the summer. For all his faults, Dalglish is not as neanderthal as Sam Allardyce and co..

souness brought through , fowler, macmanaman, rob jones , jamie redknapp and put in the structure for the michael owen's and steven gerrard's to come through yes he made big mistakes to much too soon but and was rightly sacked in the end but he did win the F.A.Cup .

Roy Evans gave them a chance , and did not rush them, I Think

Trying to give Souey credit for Owen and Gerrard?! I've heard it all now.

read what i said he set up the structure , souness change a lot of thing at LFC some bad but some good that managers now do as normal everyday things

Souness did some bad things but he did some good things too. Some of his ideas were right and paved the way (in part) for the the success under Houllier.