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I clearly mentioned in my earlier post that our defence has been great when Agger was available. He is our main defender so obviously in his absence we will be weakened. United's defence looks mediocre without Vidic, City's defence looks shaky without Kompany, the list goes on. ...But yet arguably the best defensive midfielder in the Premiership doesn't make a difference? Lol.. Your clearly not reading what I am saying so am going to stop arguing. Its not worth it.
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I clearly mentioned in my earlier post that our defence has been great when Agger was available. He is our main defender so obviously in his absence we will be weakened. United's defence looks mediocre without Vidic, City's defence looks shaky without Kompany, the list goes on. ...But yet arguably the best defensive midfielder in the Premiership doesn't make a difference? Lol.. Your clearly not reading what I am saying so am going to stop arguing. Its not worth it. I am reading what you're saying. You're saying that us missing one of our defenders has caused major problems to our defence, but that losing our only defensive midfielder made no difference because our defence was solid anyway.
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No matter who is missing who is there, Dalgish still manages to pick the wrong team time and time again.
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No need to be abusive.
Only time will tell if Lucas's absence has played a large part in our downfall but I am certain that you have convinced yourself of his importance as a way to explain such a bad season overall.
Do you honestly think that if Lucas hadn't got injured we'd be challenging for 4th? Might I remind you were only in 7th when he got injured. If that doesn't prove you wrong then nothing will, as you don't seem able to accept when you're mistaken (hence the abuse perhaps?)
The reality is that he sometimes plays well but he isn't that important. When he's back you will see that not much will change. I have heard of teams collapsing and going on a bad run of form because they're best keeper/striker/attacker is injured but I've never heard of a team using the absence of a defensive midfielder as an excuse. But some people will cling to anything I guess and if that makes you feel better, good luck to you. All I can say is don't get too upset if the return of Lucas doesn't catapault us to the premier league title. Fair enough, maybe the "abuse" was a bit uncalled for. Maybe. I recall you saying something identical to me about a week ago, but then again, shifting truths to suit your own agendas and exaggerating are your trademarks. I'm not mistaken about anything. Do you think I'm using Lucas as an excuse for your demise? Ha, no, I'm not doing that at ALL. I'm merely saying, that to say he wouldn't have made a difference is complete and utter [oops]. Firstly, none of us have a crystal ball, so we can't say for sure either way, but he was our best player for 18 months - to say "he wouldn't have made a difference" is claptrap of the highest order. You sound very sure of yourself when you say "you will see that not much will change". Very brave of you considering he isn't going to play again this season. When he's back it'll be next season and we may very well have a new manager. Way to go out on a limb, well done you. I have every right to be conifdent due to my point above: We were in 7th when Lucas got injured and we're in 7th now. Come on, even you must admit that's the nail in your lucas-will-save-us coffin....
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another massive disgrace will be finishing over 40 or more points behind the champions this is a shocking disgrace , ok i never thought liverpool would challenge alwas though 5th would be the place liverp[ool would finish in but i thought and expected a must closer run thing with the money spent and i olook at some improvement in the league along with a cup run or two , yes got the cup run but no improvement in the league in fact its gone backwards worse than benitez's last season and hodgson's short tenure .
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Lucas missing makes a huge difference to the structure in which we play! Just like Bar has said by having him back there in front of our defense releases our attacking midfielders to be able to run forward and create more opportunities! Surely if you understand football you can understand that missing someone who was your best player for the past 18 months messes with teams structure!
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No need to be abusive.
Only time will tell if Lucas's absence has played a large part in our downfall but I am certain that you have convinced yourself of his importance as a way to explain such a bad season overall.
Do you honestly think that if Lucas hadn't got injured we'd be challenging for 4th? Might I remind you were only in 7th when he got injured. If that doesn't prove you wrong then nothing will, as you don't seem able to accept when you're mistaken (hence the abuse perhaps?)
The reality is that he sometimes plays well but he isn't that important. When he's back you will see that not much will change. I have heard of teams collapsing and going on a bad run of form because they're best keeper/striker/attacker is injured but I've never heard of a team using the absence of a defensive midfielder as an excuse. But some people will cling to anything I guess and if that makes you feel better, good luck to you. All I can say is don't get too upset if the return of Lucas doesn't catapault us to the premier league title. Fair enough, maybe the "abuse" was a bit uncalled for. Maybe. I recall you saying something identical to me about a week ago, but then again, shifting truths to suit your own agendas and exaggerating are your trademarks. I'm not mistaken about anything. Do you think I'm using Lucas as an excuse for your demise? Ha, no, I'm not doing that at ALL. I'm merely saying, that to say he wouldn't have made a difference is complete and utter [oops]. Firstly, none of us have a crystal ball, so we can't say for sure either way, but he was our best player for 18 months - to say "he wouldn't have made a difference" is claptrap of the highest order. You sound very sure of yourself when you say "you will see that not much will change". Very brave of you considering he isn't going to play again this season. When he's back it'll be next season and we may very well have a new manager. Way to go out on a limb, well done you. I have every right to be conifdent due to my point above: We were in 7th when Lucas got injured and we're in 7th now. Come on, even you must admit that's the nail in your lucas-will-save-us coffin.... Are you being serious? If we lose next week and drop to 8th will I then have a stronger point? I think not. If we win our next 2 and climb to 6th should we say "oh, we're better without Lucas anyway, let's get rid"? No. You point holds no value, and as usual you're ignoring logic and reality to suit your argument.
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Lucas missing makes a huge difference to the structure in which we play! Just like Bar has said by having him back there in front of our defense releases our attacking midfielders to be able to run forward and create more opportunities! Surely if you understand football you can understand that missing someone who was your best player for the past 18 months messes with teams structure! Unfortunately, RedLaz, I don't think some of these people understand football at all. Either that, or they're just temporarily blinded from logic by their own rage at the demise of the team and their vendetta to see heads roll asap.
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Lucas missing makes a huge difference to the structure in which we play! Just like Bar has said by having him back there in front of our defense releases our attacking midfielders to be able to run forward and create more opportunities! Surely if you understand football you can understand that missing someone who was your best player for the past 18 months messes with teams structure! I think thats clear, nobody is denying that but would he have solved our goal scoring problems this season? He can create as much as he wants when we all know Suarez always hits the post. We will be where we are with or without him in the team
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