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Originally Posted By: aldo
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
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worse run hodgson had was early on 6 games without a win when the club was in turmoil , dalglish 1 win in 9 at wolves just won a cup club not in turmoil , its BAD


Not only that, at least Hodgson has had a three win streak or so. With Kenny the longest winning streak has been 2.
and roy wasnt good enough so how can this be good enough ?

its not good enough, its a disgrace.


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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
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#lfc League results since Lucas injury (CAPS = Home): lWwdDWlDlwDlLl 1.12 points per game (or relegation form in laymans terms)


This speaks volumes. We've really missed Lucas. It's no excuse for the rest of the players' failures though.


Can you please tell me how Lucas would of helped us get more points on the board? He is a defensive midfielder, contributes nothing going forward and in his absence, our defence has been solid before agger got injured. If you want to do same tests regarding Gerrard fine but I can't see how Lucas would help us in any way getting more points, he never scores and he hits a good forward pass once in a blue moon.


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But he takes the defensive responsibility off players like Gerrard who then can bomb on forwards.

Isn't that just what we had with Xabi and Masch? We then had 5 other players who could be unleashed offensively and just push push push for goals upfront!

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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
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#lfc League results since Lucas injury (CAPS = Home): lWwdDWlDlwDlLl 1.12 points per game (or relegation form in laymans terms)


This speaks volumes. We've really missed Lucas. It's no excuse for the rest of the players' failures though.


Can you please tell me how Lucas would of helped us get more points on the board? He is a defensive midfielder, contributes nothing going forward and in his absence, our defence has been solid before agger got injured. If you want to do same tests regarding Gerrard fine but I can't see how Lucas would help us in any way getting more points, he never scores and he hits a good forward pass once in a blue moon.


That's nonsense. You see the game too black and white. Defensive Midfielders do actually have an important role to play in the team, y'know?

One hypothetical example - had Lucas been playing yesterday, Sunderland may never have had the space to get that shot in that led to the rebounded goal.

You cannot undervalue Lucas's importance to the team - and I'm not saying it because of those stats, I've been saying it long before. Most other fans realise his importance.


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Does he score for us? Does he create? The only thing that he does better than we already have is defend, sure he may of defended that goal but that will still end 0-0 one point saved but does he give us that killer extinct to go out and win games? No, he would not have made a difference going forward yesterday.


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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
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Can we officially have crisis now ?
1 win in 9 as bad as wolves , sorry club legend and the cups this league campaign is a disgrace i hear people saying it better than under hodgson i dont think so , this is the worst for years no goals in the team , no pace , and millions spent , good job liverpool have 39 points because anything less we could be in a relegation fight and actually mathematically not safe even though i think liverpool will get the point required .


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Can we officially have crisis now ?
1 win in 9 as bad as wolves , sorry club legend and the cups this league campaign is a disgrace i hear people saying it better than under hodgson i dont think so , this is the worst for years no goals in the team , no pace , and millions spent , good job liverpool have 39 points because anything less we could be in a relegation fight and actually mathematically not safe even though i think liverpool will get the point required .


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Everton will run us over mark my words


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Everton will run us over mark my words
well if that happens that must be dalglish's final act as manager .

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Whilst I think Lucas is a decent enough player, I think too many people are mistaking a handful of games where he has played well as being the norm for him. For a long time most people were slating him on a weekly basis, and possibly with good reason. The only benefit of his return will mean either adam or henderson will play less, so effectively we'll be back to playing with 10 outfield players instead of 9. However, the rest of the midfield is still abysmal. If Lucas hadn't got injured our strikers would still have poorest accuracy in the league.

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