Thing is John and Jan weren't "fat" when they first come to the club. They were built, but not really fat. I think they realized that they didn't need to train as hard, because they had plenty of ability anyway.
Razors equalizer against the Scum at Anfield for 3-3 always makes me laugh though. His reaction/celebration after the header is priceless.
Urghhhhhh, where am I again?