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that's we're we fundamentally disagree i guess. That's not what I want to see. I don't believe in the philosophy of instant success at all cost.

I'd rather see success achieved as a result of hard work and qualitative effort over a period of time. And I hope there's room for romance and sentiment in the game... whereby we achieve success with a style and personnel that we're happy to be associated with the club.

Look at Chelsea... chopped managers quite a few times recently, loadsa money... but where are they? Man City with all their money and managers are still only 50:50 to win the league this year.

]O.K. lets look it at this way, you are boss of a big company which needs to keep up with it's competitors, you need someone to run it for you, you bring someone in, you give him an obscene amount of money in wages, you give him full control to make whatever changes he desires to make your company successful, you let him choose his own staff, give him loads of money to spend, provide him with the best facilities and tools for his workforce, when they travel it's first class and best hotels, best training and conditions and basicaly every concievable thing provided for him to be suceesful, so what do you do if the person you appointed does'nt produce and in fact starts to cost your Company money, do you keep him because you dont want to be seen to get shut of under performing managers or do you make a change and try to bring someone in who is up to the Job, I know which I would do.

Pepe Guardiola, Klopp, Paul Lambert, Brendan Rogers, Malky Mackay, Andre-Villas Boas, Joachim Loew, Michael Laudrup, or even Guus Poyet, right have given you at least 9 there so go and pick a fault or two with each which is what you are probably going to do anyway.

You make the change, but your timing has to be right, a suitable alternative has to have been identified and you have to be very confident that the next man will do a better job.

Otherwise you'll have to keep spending a lot of money on the same overheads (compensation for dismissing the existing team; compensation for securing the new team from existing clubs etc)... and each time you do that it'll be dead money.

You do that too often and you lose credibility. The owners get a reputation for not knowing what they're doing and the club's stature takes a battering too. every new guy will ask for time to rebuild... and if you give him one season only the odds are stacked against him.

Furthermore, if you tell the new guy that you want instant success than his decision making will be very short term. He won't identify players that might benefit in the long term and neither will he pay any attention to the academy, reserve team etc.

He's just another knee-jerker without a clue I'm afraid. Just throwing names at the problem is of no use at all. Almost all of these managers have little to no experience in the PL - some with little experience anywhere. They have been flavour of the month but there is no guarantee that any of them would fair better than Dalglish. Look at AVB - he was on a few Liverpool fan's lips after Hodgson was sacked but he lasted a mere 9 months in the prem. Guardiola is the big name here but even he would take time to get used to English football, which is a far cry from Barca. No doubt 12th Man/NorthLiverpool would be howling for him to be sacked after 12 games. If he had his way, we'd be just another Chelsea changing managers every year.

The only way I would sack Kenny is if we hire Robin Van Persie as player/manager. Otherwise lets stick with the program, win the F.A. cup, and find a couple of finishers for next season.

Unfortunately thats football in todays world, you need results straight away, if a Manager does'nt produce ship him out and another in straight away until you get the right one, this is the way big business works.