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I blame Dalglish.

Henderson, Downing, Adam, Carroll, are all his signings.
Only outstanding signings are Enrique and Suarez.

only 4 games won at home. Even Blackburn have won 5 at home.

Looks like no champions league AGAIN next season, barring a miracle.

If "Woy" Hodgson was in charge now, you all would be SCREAMING for his head!

We have got worse as a unit since Rafa Benitez's reign.

We won the carling cup, but did not deserve it. We were woeful for the full 120 mins and struggled to put cardiff away.

Only plus sign is we create many chances. maybe the proble is just a Robbie Fowler type poacher up front.

Liverpool played magnificently against Arsenal but quite simply cannot finish. If every game was like that with someone who can put the ball away we would not only be in the Champions League but we would be hammering into Utd and City and being the team most talked about on the continent for our style of play.

This is not a blindly optimistic post though - Kenny needs us to be consistent. If we are a level below what we showed against Arsenal but CONSISTENT we will be ok.

No I am not saying sack Henry, what I am saying is Henry needs to be asked the question why he took Dalglish on in the first place, give him a permanant contract and then gave him about 120 million pounds to spend, this is quite worrying that a man of so called such good business knowledge and head of our football club can be so reckless.

How can you sack Henry who is going to sack him? Its a private company and he owns the majority of the shares.

If I recall Suarez was banging them in for fun at Ajax and he got a few for us when he first came. Suarez lost his edge or the coaching / tactics ?

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much of a middle ground. Whilst some people can only focus on the bad, there are people like yourself who are just as stubborn but represent the other side of the coin. Neither party is 100% correct.

Without any shadow of a doubt you think that kenny should be judged differently and given more leniency due to his record as a player and manager many moons ago. I say this because you use the phrase "club legend" above......all managers past, present and future should be judged on what they are doing now and not what they have done previously, no matter who they are.

It's a combination of problems. When he arrived he was exceptional for a while - kenny's training and gameplans must have worn him down. Furthermore, kenny has made some p!ss poor signings to play alongside him which can't have helped him one bit either.

But the players he had alongside him when he arrived must have been worse?! Eggnog et al!

And still he produced som nice stuff a year ago!

Wonder if our offensive players are being coached properly during the training sessions at Melwwod. Good drills etc?

The collective collapse we are whitnessing atm points in that direction imo!

I'm not a dalglish-slagger, but I cannot stand it when someone vomits hypocritical trash out like they're the police of this forum. look at what you've written it's laughable. You have leveled a question of absolutes, an either or, suggesting that its other start again, gut the team, or leave dalglish to find missing pieces without any evidence or thought or half decent argument as to why 1. dalglish will find those pieces given time, (don't say cause he did it 20 years ago cause it will make you look even sillier) or why getting a new manager in to find those missing pieces without gutting the team isn't a possibility. Laughable post. And like I said, I want kenny to stay and think he can find the missing pieces, but don't spout nonsense posts like this cause it makes our side of the argument look like a childish one.

The biggest 'failure of management' is to not have a quality finisher as our no.9. Tactics I believe have been on the whole good, proof in the pudding, the no. of quality chances we create. Now maybe our coaches who deal with finishing, being in the right area, maybe they aren't up to scratch, but our tactics normally dominate teams and create countless chances (not all the time but certainly majority over the course of this season, especially a lot of the home draws).

People can say it's hindsight about carroll but 90% of people at the time said and knew it was a bad purchase and he wasn't good enough as liverpools no.9 so that argument is moot, its not just hindsight, people could see he wasn't gonna be bagging them left right and centre for us.
People can say he's improving, he sure is, but he's still way below any kind of standard befitting a liverpool no.9, in his best matches for us he has had added no where near enough to the team and not been in the right place most of the time to help the team attack/score.
People can say he's young might get better, sure he might but we need top 4 asap.

By the number of chances we have created, it's obvious having a quality no.9 would have won us quite a few of those games we drew at home, certainly I believe 4 or 5 more, including games against arsenal and maybe even utd. Now that would put us chilling nicely in 4th. The purchase of carroll for 35 million pounds as our no.9 was the biggest mistake for the new dalglish era.