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I dont know why people keep harping back to when Dalglish won the Leagues all those years ago, it's totaly different now, the man has been left behind, he's a dinosaur, a relic and his signings, substitutions and tactics belong back in the 80's. You might be right, but there are ways to be critical. We should respect the owners decision to appoint Dalglish and be supportive to the management team. That doesn't mean we can't be critical, but we need to be constructive. Vitriolic abuse like calling Dalglish a dinosaur is disrespectful, unecessary and very divisive. That's not going to help the club. It will ruin it in the end even if you get your choice of man. Byt the way, you haven't said who you would appoint instead? I have, if you read some of my posts in other threads so I am not goint to continualy repeat it. The owners made a terrible error making the incompetent Dalglish permanent, he should of been made caretaker at the very, very most until the end of the season, questions now need to be asked about John Henry's business judgement because of that.
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I dont know why people keep harping back to when Dalglish won the Leagues all those years ago, it's totaly different now, the man has been left behind, he's a dinosaur, a relic and his signings, substitutions and tactics belong back in the 80's. Yes, however according to some of your posts, your a dinosaur yourself. You love to live in past glory.
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he never does just insults liverpool football club.
Joachim low, after the 2012 championships
if you please.
I will listen, only if your answer contains wisdom
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he never does just insults liverpool football club.
Joachim low, after the 2012 championships
if you please.
Low won't join us, its simple as that. He has the world cup to look out for after the Euro's. Germany are potential winners, of both the Euro's and World cup 2014, so he would want to stay for that. Imo with him, Germany will take home both trophies.
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we just needed a bit of luck with those shots but unfortunately it did not go our way today luck is not to blame, if it is just a few games then yes, but this has been going from the start of the season. the plain simple reson of our impotent atack are: - the movement in the final 3rd, it is predictable, slow and out of sync, this falls squarely on the manger. even Benitez's defensive side made good penetrations and gave players good chances facing the goal. - lack of variety, constantly forcing the ball through the wings, when was the last time we combined a move through the middle or made a through pass, or a good soft lobe like VanPersie's 2nd goal. - style doesn't fit the players, they cant do "pass and move", we need players that can run with the ball, retain the ball in traffic, can pass and receive a ball without bouncing it. for this we need AT LEAST 3 new 20m players. ether this or get O'Neil and play direct. now is a time of serious reflection, everyone fells things are wrong and no sings of the going right, so lets be specific technically. Are you saying Suarez and Kuyt actually aimed for the post instead of the net? The goal is 24 feet wide - anywhere inside the posts is on target. Whilst a shot that hits the post may look 'unlucky' to some, it is still an accuracy error and has nuts all to do with 'luck'. To say that a shot which hits the post is 'bad luck' means that a shot which goes in is 'good luck'. The only 'luck' factor working against us that we are unlucky to have a manager with such poor judgement on players.
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Disagree , if the shot beats the goalie then hits the post then that's unlucky. If you take the penalty (as in penalty shoot out) as an example, The person who hits the post, having beat the keeper has done better in my view than he who 'smashes' it to the centre of the goal, more often than not hitting the goalie' even though the result is the same ( ie no goal)
Your argument is just a glass half full glass half empty argument . If you want to view your football team likethat thats up to you of course
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No! No! No!... please, I beg everyone, No!. That's the kind of knee jerk reaction I hope we don't resort to. I would rather have Dalglish and hope he and the management team find the solutions to our problems. lets wait till the end of the season by all means, but their is no easy way out of this, but its change the players(to expensive) or change the manger, or wait a few more years to see everyone try to learn new tricks, or learn that changes need to be made and start all over again.
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questions now need to be asked about John Henry's business judgement because of that. Haha, are you serious? Should we get Henry sacked now or what? Who should we ask these questions? You are hilarious at times! 
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we just needed a bit of luck with those shots but unfortunately it did not go our way today luck is not to blame, if it is just a few games then yes, but this has been going from the start of the season. the plain simple reson of our impotent atack are: - the movement in the final 3rd, it is predictable, slow and out of sync, this falls squarely on the manger. even Benitez's defensive side made good penetrations and gave players good chances facing the goal. - lack of variety, constantly forcing the ball through the wings, when was the last time we combined a move through the middle or made a through pass, or a good soft lobe like VanPersie's 2nd goal. - style doesn't fit the players, they cant do "pass and move", we need players that can run with the ball, retain the ball in traffic, can pass and receive a ball without bouncing it. for this we need AT LEAST 3 new 20m players. ether this or get O'Neil and play direct. now is a time of serious reflection, everyone fells things are wrong and no sings of the going right, so lets be specific technically. Are you saying Suarez and Kuyt actually aimed for the post instead of the net? The goal is 24 feet wide - anywhere inside the posts is on target. Whilst a shot that hits the post may look 'unlucky' to some, it is still an accuracy error and has nuts all to do with 'luck'. To say that a shot which hits the post is 'bad luck' means that a shot which goes in is 'good luck'. The only 'luck' factor working against us that we are unlucky to have a manager with such poor judgement on players. i agree Carheex, at some point 'luck' should be replaced by the statement 'lack of quality'. Whilst we disagree over the signings by Kenny we both agree that more composure is required when some of these opportunities arrive. Far too often we have hit the bar/post from 6yrds which for me shows lack of composure. Also like Kuyts follow up yesterday too many players have frozen when the goal has been gaping. Remember Fowler, barely hit a shot properly all because he concentrated on the accuracy rather than the power.Suarez will always be a secomd striker for me, similar to Keegan who never scored more than 13 league goals in a season.
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I dont know why people keep harping back to when Dalglish won the Leagues all those years ago, it's totaly different now, the man has been left behind, he's a dinosaur, a relic and his signings, substitutions and tactics belong back in the 80's. You might be right, but there are ways to be critical. We should respect the owners decision to appoint Dalglish and be supportive to the management team. That doesn't mean we can't be critical, but we need to be constructive. Vitriolic abuse like calling Dalglish a dinosaur is disrespectful, unecessary and very divisive. That's not going to help the club. It will ruin it in the end even if you get your choice of man. Byt the way, you haven't said who you would appoint instead? I have, if you read some of my posts in other threads so I am not goint to continualy repeat it. The owners made a terrible error making the incompetent Dalglish permanent, he should of been made caretaker at the very, very most until the end of the season, questions now need to be asked about John Henry's business judgement because of that. You seem to keep repeating your views about how bad Dalglish is... why not keep reminding us of who you would replace him with and how much time you'd give the guy? He was made caretaker and he produced some good results. It put the owners in a difficult position. If e.g. AVB cam in and did what he's done at Chelsea... the owners may well have been slated for not chosing Dalglish. Dalglish would've been in the background intentionally or unintentionally. This way we'll know once and for all if Dalglish was the man. If at the end of the season we're out of the top 4, the owners couldn't be blamed for replacing him... depending on who the replacement is of course or until the replacement too fails.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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