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No worries KP, he'll soon be complaining about anyone living more than 2 miles from the ground being an ooter with the consequential removal swiftly following.   Self sorting annoyance!  By the way: How does it work if we take the double? What team gets the 2:nd Europa League spot then? Is it the runner up in the FA Cup or in the Carling Cup? Would love to see Cardiff in Europe tbqh!
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No worries KP, he'll soon be complaining about anyone living more than 2 miles from the ground being an ooter with the consequential removal swiftly following. Self sorting annoyance! By the way: How does it work if we take the double? What team gets the 2:nd Europa League spot then? Is it the runner up in the FA Cup or in the Carling Cup? Would love to see Cardiff in Europe tbqh! No. We simply play every game twice.
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Self sorting annoyance! By the way: How does it work if we take the double? What team gets the 2:nd Europa League spot then? Is it the runner up in the FA Cup or in the Carling Cup? Would love to see Cardiff in Europe tbqh! If you look at last year, Spurs made it by becoming 5th. Birminghim made it with the league cup like us while the fa runners up Stoke sneaked through as well since City were in champions league. Carling cup runner up won't so Cardiff won't made it.
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There are some two faced people on here having a go at my views for wanting to sacrifice the F.A.Cup if it meant Dalglish leaving, I will take your mind back to last season when there were people on here wanting Liverpool to lose games because they knew it would result in Roy Hodgson getting the sack. By the way I am not having a go at these people because my own view is that unfortunately you need bad results within a football Club if you want change to happen otherwise you will be in the situation where you can win two, lose one and draw one forever and ever and nothing will ever get done, short term pain with a view for long term success is what is needed here and winning the F.A.Cup might keep him in a job another season by papering over the massive holes.
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There are some two faced people on here having a go at my views for wanting to sacrifice the F.A.Cup if it meant Dalglish leaving, I will take your mind back to last season when there were people on here wanting Liverpool to lose games because they knew it would result in Roy Hodgson getting the sack. By the way I am not having a go at these people because my own view is that unfortunately you need bad results within a football Club if you want change to happen otherwise you will be in the situation where you can win two, lose one and draw one forever and ever and nothing will ever get done, short term pain with a view for long term success is what is needed here and winning the F.A.Cup might keep him in a job another season by papering over the massive holes. Who in your honest opinion is the right man to take us forward if Dalglish does get the sack at the end of the season?
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No. We simply play every game twice. Haha! That means we can be in 2 groups at the sime time then? Or playing for 6 points every round in one group! We should make it to the knock out stages then! Wait! What happens if we manage to knock ourselves out? Are we out or in?
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There are some two faced people on here having a go at my views for wanting to sacrifice the F.A.Cup if it meant Dalglish leaving, I will take your mind back to last season when there were people on here wanting Liverpool to lose games because they knew it would result in Roy Hodgson getting the sack. By the way I am not having a go at these people because my own view is that unfortunately you need bad results within a football Club if you want change to happen otherwise you will be in the situation where you can win two, lose one and draw one forever and ever and nothing will ever get done, short term pain with a view for long term success is what is needed here and winning the F.A.Cup might keep him in a job another season by papering over the massive holes. Who in your honest opinion is the right man to take us forward if Dalglish does get the sack at the end of the season? We are at the stage now where anybody can do a bettter job than the current one, bit like the situation we were in when Roy Hodgson lost away at Blackburn last season.
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There are some two faced people on here having a go at my views for wanting to sacrifice the F.A.Cup if it meant Dalglish leaving, I will take your mind back to last season when there were people on here wanting Liverpool to lose games because they knew it would result in Roy Hodgson getting the sack. By the way I am not having a go at these people because my own view is that unfortunately you need bad results within a football Club if you want change to happen otherwise you will be in the situation where you can win two, lose one and draw one forever and ever and nothing will ever get done, short term pain with a view for long term success is what is needed here and winning the F.A.Cup might keep him in a job another season by papering over the massive holes. disagree I'm afraid. With each good result we improve the chances of more good results and the prospect of long term improvement. If however it transpires over a period that it is indeed a case of say just constantly win 1, draw 1 lose 1 etc.... and we don't show signs of improving our win rate or style of play... then yes, a time comes when a change of management personnel is required. But that's the responsibility of the owners. To wish your team to lose to achieve that outcome is wrong I think. If they do appoint someone else and you don't like the new guy, will you wish your team to lose from the outset? Will you continue doing that until they appoint someone that you approve of? And what guarantee do you have that your choice of person will succeed? Will you be happy that others will then want the team to lose because they don't share the same convistion as you in your choice of person?
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
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If you look at last year, Spurs made it by becoming 5th. Birminghim made it with the league cup like us while the fa runners up Stoke sneaked through as well since City were in champions league. Carling cup runner up won't so Cardiff won't made it. But that's not entirely the same thing is it? Birmingham didn't win both competitions, did they? The winners of Carling Cup went through, but the winners of the FA Cup didn't because they went into CL. Of course that means the runners up in Carling won't come in ahead of the runners up of the FA Cup. But this year the question is different (if we manage to win the FA Cup that is). Does our 1:st place in the Carling Cup or in the FA Cup count first? Which runner up will enter the Euro League will be determined by the answer to that question!
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There are some two faced people on here having a go at my views for wanting to sacrifice the F.A.Cup if it meant Dalglish leaving, I will take your mind back to last season when there were people on here wanting Liverpool to lose games because they knew it would result in Roy Hodgson getting the sack. By the way I am not having a go at these people because my own view is that unfortunately you need bad results within a football Club if you want change to happen otherwise you will be in the situation where you can win two, lose one and draw one forever and ever and nothing will ever get done, short term pain with a view for long term success is what is needed here and winning the F.A.Cup might keep him in a job another season by papering over the massive holes. disagree I'm afraid. With each good result we improve the chances of more good results and the prospect of long term improvement. If however it transpires over a period that it is indeed a case of say just constantly win 1, draw 1 lose 1 etc.... and we don't show signs of improving our win rate or style of play... then yes, a time comes when a change of management personnel is required. But that's the responsibility of the owners. To wish your team to lose to achieve that outcome is wrong I think. If they do appoint someone else and you don't like the new guy, will you wish your team to lose from the outset? Will you continue doing that until they appoint someone that you approve of? And what guarantee do you have that your choice of person will succeed? Will you be happy that others will then want the team to lose because they don't share the same convistion as you in your choice of person? Listen we are at the stage now where we can clearly see it's not going to go any better, the manager is simply not going to turn things around, why do you want to prolong this into next season where he will want more money to spend or in his case waste again over the summer, there is absolutely no point, it does'nt make any sense. I dont want Liverpool to lost games, I need Liverpool to lose games for us to get a change which will hopefuly help the Club appoint the right manager whoever he is and take the Club forward, there is a difference, we are going backwards, this is only the same as when Hodgson was in charge we have'nt gone any better.
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