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I realize Owen didn't go from us to United, but the fact that he went there at all lowers him in my estimation. That's all I'm saying there. It's not the fact that he moved, it's the fact that he moved to our biggest rivals, having been brought through our system and having seen his stock rise while at our club.

I do think the Bosman is a positive, because when you look at the old retain-and-transfer system, the clubs literally had ALL of the power. If the club didn't want you to move, they could hold your registration and basically prevent you from earning a living. Subsequent pre-Bosman decisions loosened those restrictions a bit, but it wasn't until Bosman that the entire system was replaced with the one we have now. I think it's good for the game that players can now move between clubs on their terms rather than the club's terms.

But I don't think player mobility and loyalty are diametrically opposed concepts. I like player mobility, and I also like loyalty. I fully support a player's decision to move elsewhere. I think Mascherano, for example, was fully within his rights to move to Barcelona, which you have to admit is a bigger club than us at the moment. What I can't condone is a player showing a complete disregard for any idea of loyalty by moving to our rivals. There's a big difference between having player power and using it in a positive way to further yourself and your career and using that player power in a negative way that basically shows a lack of respect for the club that made you.

If any of us had a contractual situation in our favour with our employer we would use it for sure nor would we or should we be vilified. It’s the same with Bosman it’s the rules and it’s up to the clubs to manage it. So I don’t blame mcmanaman or Owen for that. Owen whatever you think of him now for us was always ultra professional no drinking, no parking in the managers space, no fooling around spice boy. When he went to Manchester Utd after being at Newcastle and Madrid he was out of contract and went on a pay as you play contract with Man Utd. What the hell is wrong with that? Because its Man Utd? awww come on please.

different players, but couldn't imagine gerrard or carragher or fowler doing that.

Well funny you should say that. Fowler probably our greatest ever penalty box striker and at his best an immense talent. But off the field and on it sometimes his professionalism was a disgrace letting himself down and the fans that paid his not inconsiderable wages. Career effectively over at 26 due to drink and mucking about. Least favourite player how could we ? but all this has to be said.

Have to say fowler is the only player i feel 'let down' by really, not because of any transfers but cos i feel he wasted at least 3 years of a career, when there are wayne harrisons of the world who would have loved to have his chance, but of course its his choice what he does off the field, like it was bests and gazzas choice and countless others that dont realise how short a pro football career actually is.
Can't say i was 'let down' by owen (even though he was one of the biggest smary ar5ed players in football imo)
Torres i would have to say must have devestated the younger fans, but hes a product of bosman, Frankly id rather see my favourite club build a stadium out of gold and keep all the money and have its players in slavery than see an a55hole like that mess up the whole teams plans..freedom of movement, my a55!

interesting read SP.

I really like fowler but you speak some truth

Wayne Harrison eh..

Now there's a blast from the past what might have been....

I think he ended up as a drayman in stockport and now out of work.

Can u imagine what he would have been thinking (and there must be all those released at a young age & told sorry not quite good enough) during the torres fiasco

signed from oldham I think, but had so much talent, injuries killed his career.

is he on wikipedia then?