KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum It's easy calling for him to be sacked... BUT...

Don't worry every time Liverpool fc are on a pitch I am behind them

But doesn't mean I just stop sounding my views on football matters, until this is not a democracy then I will continue

anyway who cares about a plan a and plan b - ffs wenger has never had a plan b but he has won a fair few league titles and martinez is young enough to learn how to change things

plus look at the strength of mind he has shown to face up to fergie instead of licking his hole like allardyce and his other gfs

Yup I agree mate. Can't stand them.

Yeh I think this is a very good point. We have to blame the owners but Rafa has to take some of the blame.

its a shame because he has learnt nothing from last season - when we go at teams we destroy them - but instead he went back to sitting back and not taking the game to the opposition

and worst thing of all is that he still has not learnt to put the EPL ahead of the champions league in priorities - 5 years and we still see him pulling our best players out of a must win league game to save them for the champions league - that is a sackable offence on its own imo ...... the Prem is the most important target every season

For me, it is here and now when i look at Rafa. Yes he has to shoulder some of the blame for not adding depth to the squad and some shocking line ups and substitutions. Given the resources and the deadwood he had to clear, Rafa is not bad in my books. Whether he remains the manager to take us to the title is open to debate. Personally i dont know.

What i do know is that the sooner we get over such defeats the better. Our titles hopes have been done a major setback and we are not winning it this year unless some miracle happens. Our aim now is Champions League qualification.

well i say convince me he should stay! we have lost 5 of 11 pl games. our first team is good but when one big player is out its a major problem for a decent replacement to come in.

we are shocking at the back aswell everytime a long ball is played im wondering how will carra avoid a red or yellow card for dragging his man back or down, insua is not even at the races. and the greek freak is not fit to play for the old firm anymore never mind a top 4 team. rafa has to take some blame its his bloody team!!

But there lies the problem. Rafa is directly responsible for buying the players that we have now.

He has no outs, no excuses. 5 years, 67 players, £200 million.

i wouldnt get rid of raff unlss i had a stonewall guarantee that the new manager will have money to spend. otherwise its pointless. plus, like i said before, what players will leave with raff? torres for a start, and prob aquilanni. it till the summer and until the mericans have sorted their finances out. things can get much worse, so we must be careful. it may not be ideal, but "better the devil ya know" sometimes.

(man that kylie bird is a genius. ;-) )

well if we haven't got big resources(which we haven't)then we need a manger to fire up the squad and get the best out of what we have.i would try and get Martin O'neal from villa.i'm sure he would jump at the chance to manage one of the truly great clubs and he does get the best out of the squad avaliable to him.i think he's the sort of bloke LFC fans would like.