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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
Carheex #193781 25/02/12 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Yes when did coming in 1st and winning trophies take a back seat to coming in 4th. I dont ever remember any of my atletic coaches as a youth saying "lets go get 4th this year boys who needs trophies for finishing 1st in competitions".


The problem with your comment is that we have a chance of coming 1st in a poorly funded cup competition that most top clubs aren't bothered about - even Kenny has openly admitted that which hasn't really set it up as a glorious occasion.
Let's not be hypocrites, if utd or chelsea were miles off the pace in the league and celebrating reaching the carling cup final you'd be laughing in their faces, and you know it.

If your atheltics club were going to get £50m for finishing 4th or £1m for something else I'm sure they'd go for the first option.



Are you an accountant by any chance CarheeX?? I mean when did fans started caring about money and the business side of the club rather than glory and bragging rights? No offence but your a strange one, its not our responsibility to make the club profitable, special people are hired for that. We are here to support and celebrate winning trophies not celebrating becoming the 4th best team in the country.


None taken. But to win the important trophies we need money and CL qualification. Winning the carling cup every year will NOT help us get where we want to be - it will just mean the kids can brag in the playground about who has the most cups. So I'll pass the question back to you...would you rather we won the piddly cups that the other teams don't want or would you rather we battled the european giants? Surely as fans we'd prefer the latter....


I wrote that comment in a different angle as I mentioned the fans want to see glory and nothing else so hopefully you understood that. If you want to talk straight up about what is more important I would say for this season they are both equally important because we have not won in many years and its vital we put that right this season since we are in a final so why not have a go. I definitely want to see Liverpool back in the champions league battling with Barcelona and co and hopefully we will get that chance but as a fan right now, I want to see Stevie G lift the trophy this sunday, I can't think of anything else that would make me happier this sunday. I hope thats clear, If not I'll happily clarify.

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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
Stanley Park #193783 25/02/12 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Gerrard was on football focus today and mentioned the Carling Cup was given more focus this year because we were not in the champions league. The years we were in the champions league we fielded weakened teams.


May be so but don't forget a different manager was in charge during that time. I doubt Kenny will play youngsters and undermine any competition.

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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
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Gerrard was on football focus today and mentioned the Carling Cup was given more focus this year because we were not in the champions league. The years we were in the champions league we fielded weakened teams.


May be so but don't forget a different manager was in charge during that time. I doubt Kenny will play youngsters and undermine any competition.


He's been undermining the premier league all season by playing henderson!
Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
Carheex #193786 25/02/12 07:03 PM
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How so,by giving a young player with potential game time?

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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
Snakeye #193788 25/02/12 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Gerrard was on football focus today and mentioned the Carling Cup was given more focus this year because we were not in the champions league. The years we were in the champions league we fielded weakened teams.


May be so but don't forget a different manager was in charge during that time. I doubt Kenny will play youngsters and undermine any competition.


Then does he know what he is doing? In fairness to Kenny that your interpretation of what he would not which does not necessarily equate to what he would do. You do have a romantic image of him don't you?

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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
Carheex #193790 25/02/12 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Gerrard was on football focus today and mentioned the Carling Cup was given more focus this year because we were not in the champions league. The years we were in the champions league we fielded weakened teams.


May be so but don't forget a different manager was in charge during that time. I doubt Kenny will play youngsters and undermine any competition.


He's been undermining the premier league all season by playing henderson!


I think Hendersen deserves some slack from the fans honestly. The right flank position has been a weak and problematic position for a while now since Pennant left years ago. It is not his natural position and Kuyt isn't exactly firing on all cylinders to warrant an automatic spot so basically speaking there is no other choice then to go with Hendersen.

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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Gerrard was on football focus today and mentioned the Carling Cup was given more focus this year because we were not in the champions league. The years we were in the champions league we fielded weakened teams.


May be so but don't forget a different manager was in charge during that time. I doubt Kenny will play youngsters and undermine any competition.


Then does he know what he is doing? In fairness to Kenny that your interpretation of what he would not which does not necessarily equate to what he would do. You do have a romantic image of him don't you?


Huh?

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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
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Originally Posted By: wakka
How so,by giving a young player with potential game time?


No - by giving a massively over priced player with no obvious potential lots of game time. You must be thinking of a different henderson.
Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
Snakeye #193794 25/02/12 07:09 PM
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What I mean snakee is you seem to often say kenny would not do this or that like he is some comic book hero

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Re: When and why has our amibition fallen a level?
Carheex #193797 25/02/12 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: wakka
How so,by giving a young player with potential game time?


No - by giving a massively over priced player with no obvious potential lots of game time. You must be thinking of a different henderson.


Yeah its Jim Henderson,I think you might know him well.

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