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Whats that programme its not the Anfield review. Is there a game coming up? come on mate !!!!!
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I think this whole debate reflects the times we are living in.
Winning a trophy isn't good enough anymore for some people.
The same way many nowadays feel that a normal life is beneath them. They want fame, wealth and talent IMMEDIATELY but without the toil, sweat and tears.
Well real life isn't like that and neither is football.
We earned our right to appear in this Final and I for one intend to enjoy it.
No one rolled over and played dead and we beat two top teams along the way.
When we were in our prime as a club we were most people's 2nd favourite team because we showed humility in victory and class in defeat.
But we now seem to have a section of fans who think we are above this trophy and anyone who thinks otherwise is a deluded fool.
Well we won this trophy 4 years in a row with one of our greatest ever sides and it was good enough for them and Bob Paisley at the time.
Where they deluded fools?
At the start of the season every clubs intention is to win every competition they enter and we are no different.
Our ONLY crime on this occasion, in the eyes of some of our "fans" on here is to get to a mere League Cup Final
We cant win the Champions League this year because we didnt qualify, but we can win the League Cup so why shouldn't we celebrate if we do.
I wouuld be personally delighted for Dirk Kuyt, a great servant to the club with no winner's medals to show for his workrate, attitude and perseverance.
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I think this whole debate reflects the times we are living in.
Winning a trophy isn't good enough anymore for some people.
The same way many nowadays feel that a normal life is beneath them. They want fame, wealth and talent IMMEDIATELY but without the toil, sweat and tears.
Well real life isn't like that and neither is football.
We earned our right to appear in this Final and I for one intend to enjoy it.
No one rolled over and played dead and we beat two top teams along the way.
When we were in our prime as a club we were most people's 2nd favourite team because we showed humility in victory and class in defeat.
But we now seem to have a section of fans who think we are above this trophy and anyone who thinks otherwise is a deluded fool.
Well we won this trophy 4 years in a row with one of our greatest ever sides and it was good enough for them and Bob Paisley at the time.
Where they deluded fools?
At the start of the season every clubs intention is to win every competition they enter and we are no different.
Our ONLY crime on this occasion, in the eyes of some of our "fans" on here is to get to a mere League Cup Final
We cant win the Champions League this year because we didnt qualify, but we can win the League Cup so why shouldn't we celebrate if we do.
I wouuld be personally delighted for Dirk Kuyt, a great servant to the club with no winner's medals to show for his workrate, attitude and perseverance.
+1. Very good post. All I have left to say on the matter is that I find it unfathomable that people would not want to win this cup, or that they would see it as anything other than a positive for the team and the club as a whole.
*RODGERS *SKRTEL *JONJO
'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?'
'If there is hope, it lies in the proles'
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Nice poster that. Are we considered the away team??
Back to Back World Champions baby!
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Yep, 'cause our home form has been nasty this season!
Guaranteed win on Sunday: 0-3!
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Back to Back World Champions baby!
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I don't think anyone has said they don't want to win the cup, and at most very very few people have said they don't care...I don't know where people are getting that from.
Even more laughable is people thinking saying we can win both its not mutually exclusive so what's the point of this thread? What a stupid comment to make, we all know this isn't a little vote to decide what we win, its a hypothetical question to see what the fans on this forum value more. It's an excellent question and debate.
Beginning of the season when a cup vs champs place was posed a huge majority wanted 4th place. Now we are at a final many people seemed to have changed their mind. Not a criticism of those people, maybe seeing off top opposition and getting a ticket to wembley (can't wait) has changed their minds.
For me, 4th place is more important to the direction the club needs to go than a cup. But by no means does that mean I do not want to win a cup. It just means I can see more value in it for rebuilding and progressing.
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Even more laughable is people thinking saying we can win both its not mutually exclusive so what's the point of this thread? What a stupid comment to make,
it was me who suggested what this thread had become, well you know, and with good reason. anyone who suggested any value in the carling cup was getting slaughtered for being an idiot.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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Maybe one or two people were saying that, but most people were having a debate about what was more or less valuable. That hardly renders the thread or the topic pointless.
Granted the debate has gone on a long time, but people may not be be as active on the forum as yourself, and care to weigh in at a later date. People can always choose to not come on the thread if they are tired of it. Again perhaps yourself as a moderator may feel the need to in order to check no rules are being broken, but again that certainly doesnt render anything about the topic pointless.
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tbh i do read through every thread, there's no point in being a moderator otherwise. Having done this for the past year or whatever i certainly wouldnt expect anyone else to do it, it can be tedious at times. im not on here all the time, I try to check in at least once a day, and like anyone else i can open up the forum and be faced with 11 new threads and 250 odd posts. why would anyone in their right mind read through that other than to make sure everything was ok for users. I dont expect anyone else to read through everything, i dont have a problem with that.
regarding the thread, i didnt render it pointless, i havent locked it or edited it in anyway. what i said was my opinion, it had nothing to do with moderating the forum.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria
He came from Barca, to bring us Joy
He's five foot seven, he's football heaven
please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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