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Correction - they dream of winning the league and scoring champions league final goals. My boys and their friends don't mention the carling or fa cups and that isn't down to me. They just aren't what people want to see these days - if they were, the sponsorship and prize funds would be a lot higher than they are.

As for the autobiographies of top players - what has that got to do with anything? I want our club in the CL for 'my' enjoyment and to enable the club to progress. Whether Jordan Henderson or anyone else is happy with their cup medals is no concern of mine. These players biographies will change soon enough though - the current generation of players grew up around the FA cup so there will be an attachment. Since the emergence and expansion of the european competition players will soon be writing about their CL exploits a lot more than a 3rd round fa cup tie against wycombe. Trust me.

Ask yourself this how many top class players will be attracted to LFC because of our Carling Cup exploits ? For a top player the second question they ask (after money) is are the club in the champions league?

Exactly. Can't see Eden Hazard or Edinson Cavani giving a press conference this summer to say how much they're looking forward to facing cardiff again in next years carling cup!
At the end of the day, we'll attract the kind of players befitting the competitions that we contest. If we're in the CL we'll attract CL calibre players. If we're not, we won't.
Playing for "LFC" is no longer a carrot to dangle before a player. The only reason that we ever were a top choice club is because of our league and european successes. The football world is awash with a generation of players that have now grown up seeing Man Utd, Barcelona & Real Madrid win everything so they will naturally attract the cream of the crop. As with league positions, we're just fighting for scraps with all the other also-rans.

That's not what world class players like Gerrard and Suarez have said. They want to win trophies. At the end of your career it's about how many trophies you've won. That's why Fabregas and Nasri left Arsenal. That's why Torres left us. It's about silverware.

Gerrard only stayed with LFC because we won the Champions League. His biggest ambition has always been to win the English League with his home club.
Those 2 are far and away the biggest goals of most players - the other cups pale into insignificance and are the wooden spoon of football.

winning the Carling cup and/or the FA Cup are markers of where we are now. Not where we want to be or stay, this is not our ceiling but more of a platform to better things. 80% of success is ability and 20% is belief, I look at UTD and I see a decent to average side yet they are powering away in the league. Very much like what we did in the 80's, all because they have the nous for winning.
I don't discount your views on attracting the best players in fact I agree but if the team is to bond and improve as it is then trophies are required. In 2001 we bumbled along in the league but did well in the cups, once we won the Carling cup the team had the appetite for more and we acheived 3 cups and champs league place - mainly because we were high on winning and felt we could not lose. That is what we need this season. Fans also need to share in the success, after the Hicks/Gillete years we once again need to be proud of our club and winning the Carling Cup on sunday will go someway to achieving that.

I will be there and be as proud as ever to hopefully see the buys celebarting as winners once again. Winning is infectious

Good point, well put.

I am sure they did say that but I don't think the Carling Cup was what they had in mind. Trophies depend on what it is otherwise we would all be celebrating the Zenith Data Systems cup.

just unbelievable the stick i have had and the stick north liverpool and stanley park gets saying he is a troll etc etc and i see so-called liverpool supporters dismissing liverpool possibly extending the brilliant football league cup record by becoming the 8th time record winners and winning a cup when liverpool havent won F-ALL for years , just sad really sad the modern day fan shameful .

No need to get upset. Some people rate the carling cup, some don't - nothing wrong with that. Each to their own I say, but no need to refer to people as 'so-called supporters' just because they have a different viewpoint from you. Remember, Jesus loves us all.