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I remember watching games in the Serie A, a few years ago Eto'o had a bunch of bananas thrown at him! Some fans are just dim!!

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
you would not know there was a game on.


What game exactly? shocked

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Very unfair. And what are you saying should we live in a society where no one is allowed to speak? Because that is what is cleary happening. I remember in the 1980's we all used to speak of the tyrany in the soviet union and east germany where the population could not speak freely or they were dragged away in the night. That is what is happening here. The situation I have described is true we all experience it are you saying it is not true?



who is being dragged away in the night?

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Very unfair. And what are you saying should we live in a society where no one is allowed to speak? Because that is what is cleary happening. I remember in the 1980's we all used to speak of the tyrany in the soviet union and east germany where the population could not speak freely or they were dragged away in the night. That is what is happening here. The situation I have described is true we all experience it are you saying it is not true?



i think you're countering with a lot of claims which are simply untrue.

i have at no point indicated that i don't beleive in your, or anyone's, right to speak or that it should be compromised in anyway. all i have done is heard your opinion and given mine. is that not free speech in practice?

are any of us being dragged away in the night by communist forces?

so is the situation you have described really true. as you did make several misprepresentations within four lines of text here

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i think what are dealing with here has quickly become an issue of LFC vs MUFC as opposed to an issue of fairness or justice.

in other words as suarez has gotten an 8-game ban (however flimsy the evidence, however questionable the handling by the FA or however questionable a character Evra is), why has the same justice for inappropriate behaviour been not dished out to evra on the basis of what he said about suarez' sister and about how he behaved at the end of the game etc.

the issue is not LFC v MUFC, it's the FA and consistent failure to lead this correctly.

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Originally Posted By: Maddog
I remember watching games in the Serie A, a few years ago Eto'o had a bunch of bananas thrown at him! Some fans are just dim!!


That is what I would class as racism and have no time for that whatsoever and people who do that should be dealt with. But trivalising racism with these silly incidents such as Terry / Suarez where all that is happening is two guys having a row and one party using the race card as a weapon to get at the other. You saw clearly Eva's character at the end of the game on Saturday who can say this man is not capable of a malicious allegation? And really if Saurez is guilty of racisim then why are the authorities not charging him with a criminal offence? Because it was just hearsay and political posturing and Evra getting his own back.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park


That is what I would class as racism and have no time for that whatsoever and people who do that should be dealt with. But trivalising racism with these silly incidents such as Terry / Suarez where all that is happening is two guys having a row and one party using the race card as a weapon to get at the other. You saw clearly Eva's character at the end of the game on Saturday who can say this man is not capable of a malicious allegation? And really if Saurez is guilty of racisim then why are the authorities not charging him with a criminal offence? Because it was just hearsay and political posturing and Evra getting his own back.


so when terry called anton ferdinand "a black c**t", ferdinand was playing the race card?

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I think Ferdinand made the most of it yes. And by the way Terry has not been tried yet so is entirely innocent you are speaking as if it was fact. But even if he had yes its bad taste and probably unbecoming of an England captain but does it warrant all this furore and a criminal investigation. Things are way out of perspective in my view. You trivialise racism then you undermine the fight against real racism. And racisim is not only white against black remember something the polically correct zealots often overlook. So for example if a black person by way of their status takes advantage of that to the detriment of a white person that too is racism.


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in reality the only person who cannot claim discrimination in this country is a British born over 50 white heterosexual male, deny it if you want but sadly its true.


They are the most discriminated of all in our society. No ism to hide behind or claim victim status. This grouping has no rights whatsoever. We are a very unequal society and there is a clear hierachy of victim status. If you are disabled, black, lesbian you have hit the jackpot. White hetrosexual, male and able bodied you are at the bottom of the pile. This is not just my theory I have seen this many times in the workplace if you are high on the victim hierrachy you are untouchable and get away with things where others would lose their job or people are promoted to fill quotas.


Is this a serious post or is it meant to be satire?


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Crying racism is a lucrative career option both in the UK and the US as you well know if you are honest. Here in the UK an ex Scotland yard policeman and serial crook Ali Dizael has gone down for 4 years for the second time. He got away with this for years and framed an innocent man all through the investigations racism was his shield and at one point he successfully sued the metropolitan police for racism and retained his job. It’s hard to see a white policeman would have been given that opportunity. The same things are endemic in the US I would think.


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