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You cant solve the problem of racism and discrimination if you are guilty on both counts yourself. The F.A. began this crusade originally in order to point score against Sepp Blatter. There was no other reason.

They weren't too bothered when John Barnes and Viv Anderson were racially crucified on a weekly basis in the 80's. There was no crusade then to rid the game of racism or discrimination because they didn't have to worry about Asian audiences or Murdoch's monopoly.

They have no idea how big a can of worms their "probably guilty" verdict has opened. Its only a matter of time now before someone is dragged before the dinosaurs at the F.A. for "probably" calling an Irishman a thick Paddy, a Scotsman a miserable git, a Welshman a sheep sha88ing prat, or an Englishman an Englishman.

They then followed that up by taking the captaincy from Terry before a court of law has decided his innocence or guilt. A decision that lead directly to their manager's resignation 4 months before a major championship. But when Rooney gets a 3 match ban for kicking an opponent not once, but twice they have no problem in appealing that. (You see Rooney sells lots of shirts)

They have all but outlawed tackling in a game that used to be for men and now they are going to outlaw any display of emotion that may upset the men in suits.

Sky for it's part is steadily eroding the very fibre of the game and it's getting worse. Their transfer day coverage is tv sensationalism, over a non-event, at its very worst and their use of multiple cameras have made referees sacraficial lambs on a weekly basis.

A Sky instigated European League is inevitable and the game we all love will be lost to satisfy Asian markets.

These people stamp down heavily on anyone who might dare to offend someone's perceived sensitivities 20,000 miles away but do nothing for the hundreds of thousands of fans who have followed their teams home and away for generations.


Fans who can no longer afford to take their kids to games, fans who are herded to and from games like cattle and who no longer have anything in common with those who's scandalous wages they pay every week.

Racism and discrimination takes many forms and those at the F.A. and Sky would do well to get their own houses in order before they start preaching to everyone else.

Football used to belong to the people and we will only get it back when "they" get bored with their toy.

Asian markets?

Thing is racism was very widespread years ago. it was kinda accepted bit like donestic violence. i mean it was aknowledged maybe not acceptef.

Point it times change. racism is still there just not many people admit to it. its nothing to do with markrts its just not socially acceptable. homosexuality was the same in years gone by. times change.

I would say most of us have been racist at one point whether it be with mates or even saying im havin a chinky or goin the pak# shop.

in reality the only person who cannot claim discrimination in this country is a British born over 50 white heterosexual male, deny it if you want but sadly its true.

They are the most discriminated of all in our society. No ism to hide behind or claim victim status. This grouping has no rights whatsoever. We are a very unequal society and there is a clear hierachy of victim status. If you are disabled, black, lesbian you have hit the jackpot. White hetrosexual, male and able bodied you are at the bottom of the pile. This is not just my theory I have seen this many times in the workplace if you are high on the victim hierrachy you are untouchable and get away with things where others would lose their job or people are promoted to fill quotas.

They are the most discriminated of all in our society. No ism to hide behind or claim victim status. This grouping has no rights whatsoever. We are a very unequal society and there is a clear hierachy of victim status. If you are disabled, black, lesbian you have hit the jackpot. White hetrosexual, male and able bodied you are at the bottom of the pile.

Yours Sincerely,
Nick Griffin

Very unfair. And what are you saying should we live in a society where no one is allowed to speak? Because that is what is cleary happening. I remember in the 1980's we all used to speak of the tyrany in the soviet union and east germany where the population could not speak freely or they were dragged away in the night. That is what is happening here. The situation I have described is true we all experience it are you saying it is not true?

Another point Drome by your actions you are proving the very point I am making. By labelling it BNP you are using that as a primary weapon. I have seen the same thing many times just hint the word racisim and people back off in fear. In my view that itself leads to racism of another kind because people do not behave naturally to one another.

I can assure you quite catergorically that this so called 'racism', i prefer to call it name calling, is alive and kicking most vociferously.

I've heard the N*****, C***,and W** words used in anger and in conjunction with the F and C words MANY times over the last few weeks since this storm in a teacup erupted.
Hadn't heard such references for many many months or even years before this furore.

Nice one sweet FA. Can of worms clerly now fully opened.

Exactly I said this would happen at the time about 6 weeks ago and its turned out worse that I thought it would. The FA were politically posturing without any thought it what would happen or the control they would have over it. When did we last talk about football either here or on the back pages of the newspapers. I read both the Liverpool Echo and Manchester evening news last night racism / Suarez / Evra was all that was in them you would not know there was a game on.