KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Lets see at the end of the season

I can see the arguments for and against Kenny but at the end of the day he is here till there summer fact.

We shall judge kenny on the final league position and on other cups.

If we finish top 4 i would bite your hand off but seems unlikely currently

Finish 5th happy progress has been made

Finish 6th and a cup win its ok and we are progressing

Finish 7th and lower then i think serious question have to be asked. No progress made and in face the team is going backwards despite having a better squad than last season

This is just my view and i am sure others will differ but do believe our league form needs to improve quickly

I don't think you are far wrong there

It also depends on who else available. No point in changing the manager every season and going off in a different direction each time. Each one will state that the team he inhrited is not his and his new signings will take time to gel... or understand his philosophy etc. So there has to be a really outstanding alternative candidate before Kenny gets moved on.

It depends on what your looking for mate

I would rather have a young up coming manager rather that a high paid foreign manager

To me its about progress if we are moving forward i am happy to give time but if it looks like we are going backwards then questions should be asked

Yes agreed but an outstanding candidate won't suddenly come to L1 and knock on the door of the players entrance. We need to be working on that now, I am sure the board are doing. To be clear I am not saying they are planning to sack Kenny just sucession planning is a natural thing and its all the more acute now that this could go one of two ways very easy. If the wrong way we need to be prepared.

And I don't think KD would mind either!

if AVB is sacked, he wud be my choice

You have to have someone lined up, and that manager has to want to come and has to know that he's walking in to a volatile situation where he'd be replacing a club legend and icon who had just been sacked, at a club where its star player has brought the club into the headlines for all the wrong reasons and who gets no grace from referees.

Can you say "poisoned chalice"?

The most likely outcome I can see from here (unless things change dramatically) is that we win the Carling Cup and finish 6th. We could do better or worse, but that seems most likely. We could go deep in the FA Cup depending on how long we avoid Spurs or ourselves.

Now to me 6th and a cup is better than Rafa's last season, though not by much if it's just the Carling Cup. The difference between 5th and 6th is nothing if we've already qualified for the Europa League. I would have to say that in the absence of priority candidates (eg Ancellotti [because he's actually won the league, the FA Cup and the CL, and may respect LFC from his time at AC Milan] or even AVB [who we seemed to butter up last season only for Hodgson to screw that up too]) King Kenny would stay. He failed to make top 4, yes. But maybe there's a bit more to finishing in the top 4 than throwing a small amount of money at it in a 6 team league, and there is something to be said for continuity at the top management level.

If we're 10 points out of 4th though, I'd be worried that "better" is illusory. Rafa got sacked for that kind of performance, the man who brought home no 5 and two 80+ points EPL seasons. If we were to be fair, Kenny would have to get the boot then too.

There's a lot left to do, and time in which to do it. But 4th could slip from our grasp with time enough to find a suitable replacement for Kenny. Whether FSG think that's a wise course of action remains to be seen.