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Ok, let's go with the inverse of all that then!

1) Let's give up. Everything was better back in the good old days, and we'll never get back there again.

2) You always walk alone. Our new motto!

3) Lose all hope in your heart. No use hoping for something positive to happen. And if it does happen it's just short term and KD's fault. Sentiment and all that you know.

4) Fans are fickle and don't know a flying duck's shíte about how to be a real true red.

5) OOT'ers stink. Ban them all. It was better before when all fans were locals. Go suppport your local club instead of stalking LFC and the Real fans.

Did I miss something?

OK then, I'll go and jump off the buildning now, because everything is doom, gloom and black black black! Au revoir!

Its only opinions mate if you don't like it why bother posting on a forum at all.

Or shall every posters say we will the league this year with king kenny is that being a real fan then ?

You are being a bit of a dick not everything is right at this club 7th spot and £100m of transfees underdelivering is worth a discussion on.

And by the way it was better in the old days and not so long ago either 2005 / 6 / 7 was a damn sight better than this.

Thanks!

It's not just about opinions though, is it?

One thing is arguing and having different opinions, another thing is seeing everything in black. Yes black, not even black & white.

Don't we all know we're not as good as we've been before?

And what do you mean with discussion? I like discussions, but it's hard having a constructive debate when someone is always shouting SACK THE MANAGER all over the place.

As opposed to your everything is wonderfull. Thats not constructive either the inverse of negative. There is only North Liverpool saying we should sack the manager now to my knowledge but there is a hell of a lot not happy with performace to date, the quality and value of our signings and our inert owners.

[oops] it lets get some rich arab owners in, pep is the new manager, signs most of the barca team for 500m and happy days.

trophies on the way

Will you stop!!!! If you are going to knock our great club, including our manager at least do so with some intelligence and a semblance of understanding of LFC history regarding Kenny, in his six-year tenure won three league titles and two FA Cups. He resigned as Liverpool manager in 1991, in the wake of the Hillsborough disaster.At the time of his resignation, the club were three points ahead in the league and still in contention for the FA Cup. I've supported Kenny since his playing days but to accuse people of bias towards Kenny over Liverpool is ridiculous. we all want TO WIN and Kenny is helping us get there despite the opinions of certain turncoats slagging our club philosophy of You'll Never Walk Alone! He's won for us in the past and has us competing again after less than a year in the job full-time. I look forward to cheering us on in wembley where I've no doubt you'll be typing on a computer somewhere disappointed and moaning rather than supporting our club.

Funny how a mediocre manager goes on a lucky run with a couple of wins going his way and everybody starts jumping in the bandwagon. He is a good manager but is in no shape or form capable of running a top team. His honeymoon with Sunderland is surely nearing its end and then we will see where he will end up.

Spot on! People seem to forget what Liverpool FC is all about. Yes Football has become a business but Liverpool is about more than just one season. Its about its history and the culture of the club. It's about sticking together and getting behind the team. That's the liverpool way. It's these reasons that people are getting behind Kenny, surely he is not going badly enough to be sacked! We are not where we want to be but Kenny knows this and will work to improve our squad and get the players and team to where we need to be! Yes some players have been below par but think about the ones we on sold and don't complain about from last year... Babel, Ngog etc.

Martin o' Neil has had the chance to manage some top clubs but never seems to truly want the job.
He always get the job where he is expected to achieve a top ten finish, (sunderland)or a top six finish (villa) but he never gets a job where success is deemed by what you win or a top four finish,
Celtic does not count (mickey mouse league)

Stanley's right. All is not well with the club. 7th is not acceptable, even if it is only 4 points out of 4th. We're not in this business to miss by an increasingly small margin - we're here to win. But are we missing by an increasingly small margin?

I must admit that I thought we were better off this season than in Rafa's last - I really did. Until I looked it up. After 24 league games in 09/10, Liverpool had 41 points (W12 D5 L7), and were in 5th, 1 point behind Spurs and ahead of City on goal difference alone. We also had 10 clean sheets in the league (as we do now), but we were out of both cups and had been demoted to the EL.

So I guess, on average (since the Carling Cup is only worth winning for bragging rights at having actually won something) we're no better than we were at the worst point in the last 8 years (discounting Hodgson's half a season of relegation form). Given that we've let go of essentially every player from that era that the fans did not like and has not since come good (with the except of Aurelio and I guess Kuyt and Maxi), and have brought in a wealth of talented British youngsters on the back of the Torres transfer fee, one would think we'd somehow be doing a bit better.

That season we finished on 63 points - exactly the target based on points per game at the 24 match mark. Spurs qualified for the CL in 4th on 70, which again is what I expect the fourth place finisher to need. We need to improve and it needs to happen fast. Think about it: another 30 points is either W10 L4 or W9 D3 L2. And that extra 30 points might not be enough if the losses are against our rivals. I hardly think that we're going to go from P24 W10 D8 L6 to the form required by P14 W10 L4 suddenly.

It seems clear to me that despite all the bickering in a dressing room lost to the manager, the naysayers in the crowd, the worst squad in memory, and the money-grabbers at the top, Benitez was a damn fine manager to be doing a job on the same level as Dalglish is now without any of those negatives.