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Agree... he won't get all the time in the world... but in the meantime, we have dreams... and songs to sing. Hence the answer to the question being 'No, i was not a mistake to appoint KK'.
Legal ownership may lie with individuals. But the value of the club is as a going concern i.e. as a football club with history, tradition and potential for that to be built on further. A big part of all of that are the fans - both local and worldwide. Without the fans the club is nothing. The fans have the power to destroy the club.
Furthermore, the fans, in particular those from the local community, and the club will be there longer than the legal owners. Hence, in some real sense all owners need to realise that they are custodians more than they are owners.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Fair points mighty. But you know what? this Kenny legend stuff does my head in. If he makes the club great again then brilliant but that is his job and he can stay in it. If he does not he goes. I support Liverpool football club not Kenny Dalglish FC.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Fair points mighty. But you know what? this Kenny legend stuff does my head in. If he makes the club great again then brilliant but that is his job and he can stay in it. If he does not he goes. I support Liverpool football club not Kenny Dalglish FC. Agree with you that at some point he will need to step down if his mission fails. The big question is how long does he get and at each review point, what is regarded as acceptable progress? I don't understand why it does your head in though? he is a legend ... just enjoy it. The club is just an entity... the people involved with the club are what make it. As well as the fans, administrators, managers... a big part are the players - past and present. It's the players who perform well for us... and the games/moment they produced that live in our memories. KK was one of the great players - Wembley '78 jumping over the advertising boards with arms and smile stretched wide? fantastic! I understand that doesn't make him the best man for manager. But given the disruption we had surely it was worth a go. If he fails so be it. But it shouldn't affect the esteem with which he is regarded by LFC fans. I'm a real believer in not destroying personalities who once gave us so much. Nobody is perfect so I like to try and look at the positives and forgive the mistakes. In years to come, having players and managers of the past associated with the club in a positive manner only helps to make us a great club. Hence I hope that one day in the future we can all fondly remember the good things about players like Torres and Owen as well, even though for many it's very difficult at the moment.
'I was only in the game for the love of football - and I wanted to bring back happiness to the people of Liverpool.' Bill Shankly
'We should have made a signing or two in the last couple of transfer windows.' Vish
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Fair points mighty. But you know what? this Kenny legend stuff does my head in. If he makes the club great again then brilliant but that is his job and he can stay in it. If he does not he goes. I support Liverpool football club not Kenny Dalglish FC. totally 100% correct stan
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It can be argued that Kenny has already delivered, we are in a cup final, we are in the 5th round of the FA cup, we are only 4 points off a CL place with almost half a season still ahead of us, we have recovered from the threat of relegation status when he took over, the fans are more united than they were when he took over, the team is playing better football than they were when he took over, the team is creating more goal scoring chances than they were when he took over, the team is united behind him and they were not united behind the manager before he took over. Thats a very large glass half full right there is it not? I would venture to say that the Americans are in all probability delighted with progress under Kenny in his first year of rebuilding. Look around you how many clubs have achieved all that in their first year of rebuilding?
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It can be argued that Kenny has already delivered, we are in a cup final, we are in the 5th round of the FA cup, we are only 4 points off a CL place with almost half a season still ahead of us, we have recovered from the threat of relegation status when he took over, the fans are more united than they were when he took over, the team is playing better football than they were when he took over, the team is creating more goal scoring chances than they were when he took over, the team is united behind him and they were not united behind the manager before he took over. Thats a very large glass half full right there is it not? I would venture to say that the Americans are in all probability delighted with progress under Kenny in his first year of rebuilding. Look around you how many clubs have achieved all that in their first year of rebuilding? The team was never in serious danger of relegation and I would dispute maybe 70% of those so called positives. As for probability the Americans are delighted I seriously doubt that like I said I have worked with americans they don't take kindly to missed targets. Henry said this last close season 4th place was the target. He said that for a damn good reason the club (his personal investment) has to have champions league status to exist as a premier club and who would pay £300m to plus the new ground to achieve fluffy promises. If you think that then you in for a rude awakening like I say I know the american business mindset.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Liverpool made a mistake not appointing Martin O'Neill when they had the chance wat you guys think about this?? There's no way O'Neill would have been Kenny's assistant! We've the right man at the helm.
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Liverpool made a mistake not appointing Martin O'Neill when they had the chance wat you guys think about this?? Did this really get said? In earnest? I give up...stop the world...I want to get off.
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It can be argued that Kenny has already delivered, we are in a cup final, we are in the 5th round of the FA cup, we are only 4 points off a CL place with almost half a season still ahead of us, we have recovered from the threat of relegation status when he took over, the fans are more united than they were when he took over, the team is playing better football than they were when he took over, the team is creating more goal scoring chances than they were when he took over, the team is united behind him and they were not united behind the manager before he took over. Thats a very large glass half full right there is it not? I would venture to say that the Americans are in all probability delighted with progress under Kenny in his first year of rebuilding. Look around you how many clubs have achieved all that in their first year of rebuilding? The team was never in serious danger of relegation and I would dispute maybe 70% of those so called positives. As for probability the Americans are delighted I seriously doubt that like I said I have worked with americans they don't take kindly to missed targets. Henry said this last close season 4th place was the target. He said that for a damn good reason the club (his personal investment) has to have champions league status to exist as a premier club and who would pay £300m to plus the new ground to achieve fluffy promises. If you think that then you in for a rude awakening like I say I know the american business mindset. Stanley, you are wasting your time trying to drag these people into the real world, they will never understand it's now a business and we are just customers and clients, Kenny Dalglish could take the team down and they will still sing his name because he was a great 30 years ago. Look Stanley, there are a few on this forum who know it's a results business, there are few who know Dalglish helped to start the demise of the Club just before he left first time around back in the early 90's and there are a few who realise John Henry is only here because he can smell a quick buck and nothing to do with loving the Club, respecting the Club or claiming to be a boyhood red, all the fans on here will tell you is " You'll never walk alone " or " have hope in your heart " very nice sentimental words but they have no place in today's football world unfortunately.
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It can be argued that Kenny has already delivered, we are in a cup final, we are in the 5th round of the FA cup, we are only 4 points off a CL place with almost half a season still ahead of us, we have recovered from the threat of relegation status when he took over, the fans are more united than they were when he took over, the team is playing better football than they were when he took over, the team is creating more goal scoring chances than they were when he took over, the team is united behind him and they were not united behind the manager before he took over. Thats a very large glass half full right there is it not? I would venture to say that the Americans are in all probability delighted with progress under Kenny in his first year of rebuilding. Look around you how many clubs have achieved all that in their first year of rebuilding? The team was never in serious danger of relegation and I would dispute maybe 70% of those so called positives. As for probability the Americans are delighted I seriously doubt that like I said I have worked with americans they don't take kindly to missed targets. Henry said this last close season 4th place was the target. He said that for a damn good reason the club (his personal investment) has to have champions league status to exist as a premier club and who would pay £300m to plus the new ground to achieve fluffy promises. If you think that then you in for a rude awakening like I say I know the american business mindset. Really?So are these like Hicks and Gillete then?
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