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People have forgotten how poorly we were before he took over. We owe him so much for putting us back on track and setting us up for a great few years ahead. We are going back to a final at last thanks to him or are you going to say its down to the players now? You blamed him when results were bad so you better give him credit when he has sent us to a final. Must go until the end of his contract and I am absolutely sure if he does well, he will go far beyond his contract.

Can't we stop this nonsense and let things unfold? Kenny will surely be judged at the end of next season. If we're still playing badly and are as far off 3rd/4th as we are, I will agree that he 'may' well need to step down, but what don't people understand about the re-building process?

Carrol's obviously a huge mistake and we overpaid for henderson/downing, but was it kenny's job to negogiate the price? I still think there's a lot to come from Henderson when the midfield is more settled and Adam's dropped. Downing even more so. You aren't consistent for that many years, then turn crap overnight.

It's a tough league and chelsea and arsenal stumbling are proof of that, and city's spending means we can forget about the title for a good few years.

At least let's give KK credit for masterminding the defeat of the league's best team and his signings for knocking them out.

Surely people aren't looking at reaching the carling cup final as some kind of yardstick to show we are moving forward?!?! It's a joke of a competition used by the big clubs (those playing in europe) to give their reserves a run out. Now and again a big team will start to take it seriously in the latter stages but by that time most of the big teams are gladly out of it.
Recent finalists include: birmingham, wigan, boro, cardiff, bolton, leicester, tranmere, blackburn. That says it all.
If we win it, we'll end up in the very european competition that we did our best to avoid qualifying for at the end of last season.

Let's not get carried away by poxy english cup contests. The league and the CL are the only things that matter.

The way I see it we were regularly qualifying for the champions league just three seasons ago. So what has changed since then very little as far as I can see except the mansger has been given a £100m plus transfer budget. Yet some are talking we are re-building as if we have just come up from the championship. The truth is the club has fallen in the last three years with the same resources. The next phase appears to be see how it goes, let things unfold etc. I am not proposing Kenny gets the sack but he needs to be told in no uncertain terms we need to be in the champions league for next season or have a damn good reason for why not. If we stay at this level and Carroll et al continue to show no prospects of ever contributing then I can see the owners stepping back and rethinking continuing to let him invest in the team. That will need him having to sell to buy and thats goimng to be a tough one. So the back end of this season in the PREMIERSHIP not the silly Carling Cup will be the name of the game.

Not by any means but let's at least celebrate the win and hopefuly final win and maybe it will pick the players up. Most of the new signings have barely won a medal between them so hopefully this will give them a taste of what can come.

What's changed is Man City has spent $ and spurs have improved hugely, although it's quite possible spurs will decline again. Afterall, the net spend isn't that huge over the last several years and we were always clinging to 4th during H&G's reign so we don't have a god given right to finish top 4. Chelsea and Arsenal fans will be demanding the same no doubt and only 1 of us can this season.

Well, that's not how the players see it. Gerrard said the other day that at the end of his career, he doesn't want to say he finished in the Top 4 for however many years. He wants to say he's won trophies, and trophies are what matter. Suarez has said as much himself. Players want to win silverware, and if we want to keep all star players like Gerrard and Suarez we need to win Silverware. Top 4 is important, but it the CL is just a chance to win another trophy (albeit a bigger one than the league cup).

Everyone understands the league and the champions league are the best prizes out there but we're not in them to win them. We're in the league cup final so yes we are going for that whether you think its poxy or not. To me its a huge step for our club especially if we end up winning it to break this barren run.

I think those statement put's to bed which is more important finishing fourth or winning the Carling Cup am glad because the posts about which was best did get a bit boring in the end, so am glad it's sorted once and for all.

Champions League is so much more then a bigger trophy. Financial benefits aside it helps us attract better players and raises the clubs profile in Europe and the rest of the world. Maybe we won't get 4th this year (I still think we've got a shout) but it has to be our highest priority

I want CL footy, but we don't get a trophy just being in it. It is a bigger trophy, but a liverbird honor in the hand is worth two in the bush. As far as getting better players, winning trophies does that too, and it keeps them here. Here's proof of that and Suarez has said as much himself.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/li...55578-30193291/